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I have had to revert to Xfce 4.12 in -current since the ffmpeg update screwed around with image launching in Ristretto, and some other update [I'm not sure what] messed the panel and theming up. Now I know why Pat hasn't moved 4.14 into -current yet.
With Xfce 4.12 and Xfce terminal 0.6.3, when the last tab has focus, that Ctrl+Page Down does not wrap to the first tab and "Next Tab" is disabled in the menu. This works as expected in Slackware Live, which uses Xfce terminal 0.8.7.4.
Looks like that keyboard shortcut wrap feature was added to xfce-terminal in version 0.6.90. Sadly that version also included the migration to GTK 3.
In 14.2 I tried compiling xfce-terminal 0.8.8. No go, looking for the newer versions of GTK 3.
Where is the source tar.gz for 0.6.90? On a long shot, despite the migration to GTK 3, possibly that version will compile with GTK 3.18 on 14.2.
Yes, thank you! How did you know where to find the source packages?
I tested 0.6.92. Same thing. No tab wrap support by menu or keyboard shortcut. But --
Some tinkering revealed that for some reason I had MiscCycleTabs=FALSE. The desired/default setting is TRUE. I reverted to 0.6.3 and sure enough, the shortcuts and menu options were enabled.
I misread the change log about the feature being added in 0.6.90. The change log states additional shortcut support was added:
Add Ctrl+Shift+PgUp/PgDn shortcuts to move tabs left/right
Looks like I took the long road to discover the feature existed all along and the problem was PEBKAC.
Curiously, I tried 0.8.0 in 14.2. Compiled fine. I tried 0.8.1 and the terminal interface broke. The window would not launch in my configured size and text would weirdly self-wrap on the same line.
To anyone following this thread, version 0.6.92 works fine on 14.2 -- at least in my short usage thus far since installing. I also notice the tab bar is thicker/higher than in 0.6.3, which for me is preferred. I much disklike the developer tendency to squish everything to "save screen real estate."
Edit: Version 0.6.92 exhibits the same weird inline self-wrap I described above. So I am back to 0.6.3. For example, if I type installpkg and then paste a package path, the on screen text discombobulates.
Yes, thank you! How did you know where to find the source packages?
Well, I maintain an xfce mirror at archive.al-us.xfce.org (hosted on harrier.slackbuilds.org), so I guess I "just knew" - however, the download links in new release announcements from Xfce would be a good source too.
Surprisingly VirtualBox guest additions succeeded with the 2.4 kernel, but I had to manually tweak xorg.conf to get full screen. Xfce was at version 4.2.3.2 and notably missing features of 4.12. KDE at 3.5.4. Lilo is ugly. Firefox was at 1.5 and to me, the preferences dialog is more intuitive. Stirred some long forgotten memories. Caused me to pause and realize how everything is so much nicer these days.
Well, I maintain an xfce mirror at archive.al-us.xfce.org (hosted on harrier.slackbuilds.org), so I guess I "just knew" - however, the download links in new release announcements from Xfce would be a good source too.
Recentliy, I've built Xfce 4.14 on Slackware Current and 14.2. On Current it wasn't a big deal, but on 14.2 very tricky. Anyway, to build Xfce-terminal you need a newer version of gcc and vte, but I've taken a patched vte of Debian without to build gcc. :-)
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Well...... Xfce-4.14 was released a month ago yesterday, the 12th.
It was the first release in 4 years and 5 months.
After loading it up and using it several times and then revertng to Xfce-4.12, I'm scratching my head and wonder if it was worth the wait.
IMHO, no, it certainly was not!
As a general discussion, not a flame war, is anyone convinced that other than the move to gtk3, was it worth the wait?
Thanks.
Last edited by cwizardone; 09-13-2019 at 04:43 AM.
As a general discussion, not a flame war, is anyone convinced that other than the move to gtk3, was it worth the wait?
Thanks.
Well, I had to move back to 4.12 so that kind of answers it.
It looks nice [which is the gtk3 part], but in terms of functionality I can't see that it brought anything new to the table which is useful to me. It's not stable enough to be moved into -current yet either, too many incompatibilities with other packages.
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Well, I had to move back to 4.12 so that kind of answers it.
It looks nice [which is the gtk3 part], but in terms of functionality I can't see that it brought anything new to the table which is useful to me. It's not stable enough to be moved into -current yet either, too many incompatibilities with other packages.
I kind of wish they just stuck with xscreensaver. Why reinvent the wheel when a great app already exists that fits the bill?
4.14 works fine here, except on my 2in1, there is a regression in xfwm that doesn't allow it to work properly with my rotated screen, which is pretty much a showstopper for me on that thing. On my desktop and laptop it works fine, but those machines are fast enough to run Plamsa5 anyway, so I use that since it and all of its Alt+F2 file-search glory just works so much better with my workflow.
The only issue that I have with Xfce 4.14 is that xfce4-power-manager has moved on to upower >= 0.99.0, while Slackware is still on 0.9.23, meaning that we are using the stale xfce4-power-manager-1.4.4 instead of 1.6.5.
I kind of wish they just stuck with xscreensaver. Why reinvent the wheel when a great app already exists that fits the bill?
4.14 works fine here, except on my 2in1, there is a regression in xfwm that doesn't allow it to work properly with my rotated screen, which is pretty much a showstopper for me on that thing. On my desktop and laptop it works fine, but those machines are fast enough to run Plamsa5 anyway, so I use that since it and all of its Alt+F2 file-search glory just works so much better with my workflow.
What they removed xscreensaver... why? I like seeing the Bouncing Cow.
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