I don't use it enough to mess around with anything special; its only purpose here is to have a light gui on the RPi devices.

I don't have it running on Slackware yet, Robby. I have had it running for a couple of weeks or more on openSUSE, which I've been using for sections of the LPIC certification program. I will install it tomorrow on Slackware and let you know if it's running well. I can certainly say that I only wish I had paid more attention to it sooner. A great window manager with excellent out-of-the-box defaults and a full set of preconfigured keyboard shortcuts. Theming takes a little bit of work but that's only a small matter.

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I'm not sure if you want to emulate a tiling window manager or just to snap windows to edges. IceWM allows you to snap to the four corners and four edges, using WinKey+NumPad. So, for example, WinKey+7 to snap the window to the top left corner; WinKey+9 to top right; WinKey+2 to bottom edge (but not fully along the edge); WinKey+4 to left edge; and WinKey+5 to centre the window. Alt+Shift+F10 maximises the window vertically. You can see all the shortcuts listed in the icewm man page at the icewm website.

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Thanks anyway for providing it at sbo :P

Yeah I meant snap windows to edges indeed. Imo a minimal requirement to get a decent workflow in a wm. So thanks for that.

It depends on your definition of "modern".

GTK2 themes can certainly look nice and be sized appropriately for HiDPI. However, only GTK3 can do transparency and smooth animation.

I personally prefer GTK2's static and opaque widgets. I don't need "bling!" on my computer desktop.
Ed

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Clearlooks Classic forever!

I miss that alpha slider too, it seems that they made it a little bit more
hidden and complicated.

There is a bug report about this already
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15813
Link to the explanation on how to configure alpha now
https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-pan...nsparent-panel

When you click on the plus sign button, it always shows the red color,
if you want to configure alpha to a particular color, right click on that color and
will appear a tip, click on it and the color pick will open with that color selected.
too much complicated, I prefer the old way with a color pick window and the alpha slider.

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Paulo2,
Many thanks for that most useful information!

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It's hidden, isn't it?

On my test machine, an old HP Compaq circa 2009, at least Xfce 4.14 fixed a flickering in whiskermenu,
and that flickering was appearing at Apache OpenOffice gui too.

It was unusable, I started using KDE, no flickering there.
It is hard to describe, I recorded a video with recordmydesktop,
will post it sometime.

I'm still running KDE because there is another problem, Firefox
became very unusable sometime ago, pages doesn't load and CPU/RAM usage goes 100%.
That one remains in Xfce 4.14. In KDE, Firefox runs ok.

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The Official Xfce-4.14 release announcement,

https://simon.shimmerproject.org/201...ke-a-week-ago/

There is talk version 4.16 is "only" a year away.

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Anybody here yet using 4.14? If yes:

Did the developers find a way to avoid tooltips? One of my frustrations with MATE -- actually GTK3 -- is the inability to silence tooltips.

Thanks.

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I'm not on 4.14 but I recently built a 4.14-ish version of xfwm4 and ended up reverting, because on my 2in1 I rely heavily on rotating my screen using xrandr, and on newer versions of xfwm4 this messes up maximization - ie, when my screen is rotated to landscape from its "native" portrait, windows only maximize to fill half the screen. And popup menus that are generated, ie, from tray icons, spawn halfway into the screen - it's as if xfwm4 believes the horizontal screen space is actually smaller than it really is.

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I'm using 4.14 but I'm not sure what you mean. In what applications do you want to avoid them? How can I test this?

* Hover the mouse over a terminal tab.
* Hover the mouse over a desktop icon. (Settings/Desktop/Icons/Show icon tooltips)
* Add a panel launcher, look in Properties/Advanced, does an option exist to disable?

* Hover the mouse over a terminal tab.

Isn't this set by application? e.g. in Xfce terminal, a tooltip appears when I hover over the close tab icon. This does not happen over the close tab icon in LX Terminal. No tooltips exist at all for UXTerm/Xterm. As for the tabs themselves, in Xfce terminal, a tooltip appears if I hover over the word 'terminal' in the tab, but not if I hover over the rest of the blank part of the tab.

* Hover the mouse over a desktop icon. (Settings/Desktop/Icons/Show icon tooltips)

Yes a tooltip appears, but this can be disabled.

* Add a panel launcher, look in Properties/Advanced, does an option exist to disable?

Yes, it can be disabled.

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