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Old 04-19-2019, 03:35 PM   #166
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I know that is the case with Windows Explorer
With Windows, it's not that big a problem, since each file system is assigned a separate drive letter, so it's immediately clear whether you transfer a file within its original file system or to a different one.

Under Linux, there isn't really a visual clue to show if you transfer to a different file system. (The same issue probably arises when you use mount points under Windows, I suppose. I have no experience with these, though.)
 
Old 04-19-2019, 06:38 PM   #167
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With Windows, it's not that big a problem, since each file system is assigned a separate drive letter, so it's immediately clear whether you transfer a file within its original file system or to a different one.

Under Linux, there isn't really a visual clue to show if you transfer to a different file system. (The same issue probably arises when you use mount points under Windows, I suppose. I have no experience with these, though.)
This is part of the reason why I prefer krusader. It will prompt me every time whether I want to copy, move, or cancel.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 07:04 PM   #168
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This is part of the reason why I prefer krusader. It will prompt me every time whether I want to copy, move, or cancel.
Huh. Designed for every day users rather than geeks?
 
Old 04-19-2019, 07:30 PM   #169
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Huh. Designed for every day users rather than geeks?
I'd say it's probably the opposite. Regular users likely have a single drive and most would rather move than copy on that drive (and then copy when moving to a different drive -- most likely a thumbdrive). So I would say the behavior for many file managers is what regular users would expect.

But I've probably diverged this off topic enough. Sorry!
 
Old 04-19-2019, 07:54 PM   #170
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Doesn't that behaviour depend on whether or not the source and destination locations are on the same file system? I seem to remember that if they are on one and the same file system, then the file will be moved, otherwise it will be copied.

You can use a right-button mouse click to manually select the operation that you want, of course. It's what I usually do, because I find the default action rather confusing.
With Thunar no right click options are available, but you are correct in that within the same file system it moves the file, but to another file system it copies. It doesn't give one the option, it just does it.
OTOH, both Dolphin and Konqueror allow you to drag a file to a new location with the left button and when you let go of the button a small menu pops up asking if you want to copy, move, cancel, etc.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 09:55 PM   #171
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I just remembered we got bit at work by this copy/move design.

GUI File Manager Drag-and-Drop

The user had inadvertently but concurrently clicked and dragged to move a folder. The move is immediate and there is no feedback. Almost 1.4 GB of files seemingly evaporated. This awful "move/copy without confirmation" design has haunted Windows users from the beginning of the GUI era. That's where the original mischief started. Same design flaw in the Linux world, although I have not tested all GUI file managers. Just bad usability design. A simple confirmation check box control would resolve the problem.

Loosely on topic as last summer I tested the design flaw in Thunar. Same result.
 
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:33 PM   #172
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It's the same filesystem in my case, although it is a USB mass storage, since it's a removable drive.

And it does move the files if I do it in my home directory.


UPD1:
Nailed it!

I'm not the owner of the files I'm sorting out. These files I chmoded g+rw, so that the original owners wouldn't be lost. And it seems that by default Thunar won't automatically delete others' files. This actually makes sense!

Although I believe an average user would spend ages debugging this story.

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Old 04-21-2019, 02:55 PM   #173
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It would be great if Xarchiver, Xfburn, Ristretto, Mousepad, thunar-archive-plugin and Xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin were included in Slackware. Those are the first things I install on all fresh installations. I find that those fill the gap for when the kde/ package set is omitted during the installation process.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the xfce4-notes plugin. In the theme of a complete desktop environment.
(The quote has been edited by me for brevity.)

I'm assuming you don't know about SlackBuilds. All of what you mentioned are available there and if you use sbopkg (and if you're lazy like me, sbodeps), you can quickly and easily install all of those.

I've been using XFCE under Slackware for 19 years now. The combination is an unbeatable one.

Xfburn is nice but I normally burn CD/DVDs via shell.

One of the joys about Slackware is that if you don't want something installed, you don't have to have it installed. I prefer to install software if I want it and not be forced to use it...which is one of the main reasons I run Slackware.
 
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Old Yesterday, 11:19 AM   #174
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As pointed out by board member TurboBlaze in the "Requests for -Current" thread,
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5996433

new versions of several Xfce components were released yesterday.

A news story about xfdesktop-4.13.4 can be found here,
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa....13.4-Released
 
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To anybody using the pre-release, how much has the move to GTK3 affected Xfce?

For example, does Xfce still provide a way to disable all tooltips everywhere or is this impeded by GTK3?
 
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To anybody using the pre-release, how much has the move to GTK3 affected Xfce?

For example, does Xfce still provide a way to disable all tooltips everywhere or is this impeded by GTK3?
I will look into that...Xfce is heavier with the move to GTK3.
 
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I will look into that...Xfce is heavier with the move to GTK3.
One of the key features i liked about XFCE was it was cholesterol free, if it gets on weight it might just hit the bin...
 
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One of the key features i liked about XFCE was it was cholesterol free, if it gets on weight it might just hit the bin...
I would absolutely love to see an LXQt move to Slackware. However there's been no discussion about that whatsoever so it doesn't look like it'll be on the cards. Not officially anyway. Having said that, ponce's LXDE works excellently, so when 15.0 comes around I'm sure someone will get LXQt on Slack.
 
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I would absolutely love to see an LXQt move to Slackware. However there's been no discussion about that whatsoever so it doesn't look like it'll be on the cards. Not officially anyway. Having said that, ponce's LXDE works excellently, so when 15.0 comes around I'm sure someone will get LXQt on Slack.
https://notabug.org/SlackDesk/LXQt

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I haven't seen them discussed in this thread, but I find the XFCE panel and Thunar file manager to be great additions to almost any setup.
Thunar is minimal, but has useful plugins (media tags and VCS), and the custom actions are nice as well.
The panel allows for a decent amount of customization without needing to edit different configuration files, like you would with polybar or i3status. Here is a list of what's my on current panel, from the left:
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xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin, workspace switcher, several separators, xfce4-mpc-plugin, several separators, xfce4-notes-plugin, xfce4-genmon-plugin with an update notifier, xfce4-genmon-plugin with network information and a clickable action to open networkmanager_dmenu, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, power manager, and clock.
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