Slackware VS Ubuntu

catkin · 05-23-2010, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh000

It is to be expected, as they sometime ago replaced the traditional init system with upstart.

I am sure all the advanced users who use ubuntu kept up with this development, and obviously those who do not care about ubuntu did not.

Upstart has many advantages, as listed on the wiki page.

Could well be part of the upstart system and (presumably for backwards compatibility) it does look in inittab, but there is no runlevel in ubuntu's inittab by default (for sure on 8.04). Here it is FYI

Code:

# rc - runlevel compatibility
#
# This task guesses what the "default runlevel" should be and starts the
# appropriate script.

start on stopped rcS

script
    runlevel --reboot || true

    if grep -q -w -- "-s\|single\|S" /proc/cmdline; then
        telinit S
    elif [ -r /etc/inittab ]; then
        RL="$(sed -n -e "/^id:[0-9]*:initdefault:/{s/^id://;s/:.*//;p}" /etc/inittab || true)"
        if [ -n "$RL" ]; then
        telinit $RL
        else
        telinit 2
        fi
    else
        telinit 2
    fi
end script

As you commented, Josh000, upstart has many advantages but breaking boot script message logging (bootlogd functionality) is a significant disadvantage. Is it fixed in 10.04?

thosch97 · 05-30-2010, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catkin

So xubuntu might suit you ... or is Xfce not to your liking?

Hmm, there is no very big different difference between Xfce and GNOME. Maybe Xfce is faster, but on a Intel Core2Duo GNOME is as fast as Xfce (but maybe KDE is a bit slower, but not on my PC

)

salemboot · 06-05-2010, 09:53 PM

I still see Slackware's 13 major number releases as Betas. The stable version is 12.2 for those interested. Slam64's 12.2 for 64 bit enthusiasts.

Ubuntu 10.04 is the first stable release we've gotten in a long time. 9.04 was a release candidate. 9.10 was the beta. 10.04 was the release.
The stable version is 10.04 for those interested.

I haven't seen a release since 2007 that properly burnt cdr's on my external dvdr burner. Wodim, cdrtools just started failing.

I've started using Nero for Linux. Superb piece of software.

I'm going out on a limb here but maybe the slackware dev's could take a look at the fine print on KOffice's website which states that KOffice 2 isn't ready for production. It's not even close to being feature complete. It's high time OpenOffice is included or a return to Abiword is in order.

But what do i know...

Goodbye sweet hat...

mRgOBLIN · 06-05-2010, 10:55 PM

Wow must be a slow week...

SCerovec · 07-06-2010, 03:50 AM

It seems 'buntu is catching on:

It looks more and more like Slackware (init got face lift, what's next?)

Lately all development seems to advance by making it "the old way".

Stevan C.

GazL · 07-06-2010, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCerovec

It seems 'buntu is catching on:

It looks more and more like Slackware (init got face lift, what's next?)

The last time I paid much attention to what ubuntu were up to they were in the process of implementing an event-based init with a high degree of parallelism centred around 'upstart' and similar to what Apple did with Launchd in OS X.

That's about as far from Slackware's simple and reliable fixed-order sequential init system as you can get. Or are you referring to something else?

Drakeo · 07-07-2010, 07:45 AM

Ubuntu default grub2 has made it not bleeding edge like Slackware current. it has made a long term learning curve for the unknown person.