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Old 05-21-2010, 06:46 AM   #196
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Donald Knuth uses Ubuntu.
Wow - I didn't know that - (the guy is one of my long standing heroes whose work I have studied some time ago).

At times I have found solutions to my problems only in Ubuntu forums - i don't use Ubuntu myself. That may be because the user base is so much larger but in any case people shouldn't be so quick to brand Ubuntu and it's users in a bad way.
 
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:54 AM   #197
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Recently, I had a brief encounter with *buntu (Crunchbang - based on ubuntu 9.10) on my netbook. I gave up after I couldn't find /etc/inittab to change the default runlevel. It's simply not there. I don't know what other linux/unix key configuration files are missing from *buntu but I'm not sure I want to find out.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 06:59 AM   #198
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Donald Knuth uses Ubuntu.
and is joker, for example "he defined the fundamental unit of length as the thickness of MAD magazine #26"
 
Old 05-21-2010, 07:05 AM   #199
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I suppose it's OK for people who don't want to do any tinkering (or think they won't have to). One big problem with Ubuntu is their release scheduling: must be out in April or October, ready or not.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 07:06 AM   #200
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I gave up after I couldn't find /etc/inittab to change the default runlevel. It's simply not there.
Now defined by /etc/event.d/rc-default, a script that defaults the run level to 2. It must have seemed like a worthwhile improvement at the time but does the benefit justify the cost -- of bamboozling all the people who know the run level is set in inittab. What is the benefit?
 
Old 05-21-2010, 07:09 AM   #201
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Now defined by /etc/event.d/rc-default, a script that defaults the run level to 2. It must have seemed like a worthwhile improvement at the time but does the benefit justify the cost -- of bamboozling all the people who know the run level is set in inittab. What is the benefit?
Is *buntu the only distro that has changed it?
 
Old 05-21-2010, 07:21 AM   #202
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Now defined by /etc/event.d/rc-default, a script that defaults the run level to 2. It must have seemed like a worthwhile improvement at the time but does the benefit justify the cost -- of bamboozling all the people who know the run level is set in inittab. What is the benefit?
It is to be expected, as they sometime ago replaced the traditional init system with upstart.

I am sure all the advanced users who use ubuntu kept up with this development, and obviously those who do not care about ubuntu did not.

Upstart has many advantages, as listed on the wiki page.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 07:52 AM   #203
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One big problem with Ubuntu is their release scheduling: must be out in April or October, ready or not.
I agree! I much prefer our saner approach to release scheduling. Pat only releases a new stable version of Slackware when it meets his standard of excellence. There's a reason that Slackware is legendary for stability, speed, and security.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 07:56 AM   #204
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I thought Ubuntu 10.04 was really well made. Everything worked ootb but I just can't stand Gnome. And KDE is rather neglected by the devs their main focus is Gnome. I might check out Fedora next as I heard good things about their recent KDE implementations. Although openSUSE steals the show when it comes to KDE.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 07:58 AM   #205
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I agree! I much prefer our saner approach to release scheduling. Pat only releases a new stable version of Slackware when it meets his standard of excellence. There's a reason that Slackware is legendary for stability, speed, and security.
Debian is also legendary for stability.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 08:06 AM   #206
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Debian is also legendary for stability.
Yes, it is stable indeed. I was a long time Debian user.
Slackware is the best fit for my needs.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 08:11 AM   #207
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I thought Ubuntu 10.04 was really well made. Everything worked ootb but I just can't stand Gnome. And KDE is rather neglected by the devs their main focus is Gnome. I might check out Fedora next as I heard good things about their recent KDE implementations. Although openSUSE steals the show when it comes to KDE.
You might want to try Mandriva.

I have heard nothing but good things about it, and it is meant to be quite a bit more stable and consistant than Ubuntu.
 
Old 05-21-2010, 12:04 PM   #208
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Hi,

First off, wow this thread is OLD! Now back on topic, Ubuntu vs Slackware. All of these "VS" threads really come down to personal preference. Try both and choose the one you like. We cannot make the decision for you.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 08:27 AM   #209
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Recently, I had a brief encounter with *buntu (Crunchbang - based on ubuntu 9.10) on my netbook. I gave up after I couldn't find /etc/inittab
I guess life is a learning curve. It is a grub thing to the Ubuntu OS
the esc key then run maintenance mode boot to command line .
telinit 3. and if you learned more it would sudo passwd make a root passord. now login as root.

Us Slacker's just edit /etc/inittab level three and boot.
KISS is great and Slackware64-13.1 is real nice. and simple.
what is better? what is right? what just works.
The big thing about Slackware is the 1000 times more programs it has the ability to run out of the box. KISS and SBOPKG is good stuff.
it has to do with a library thing.
 
Old 05-23-2010, 08:30 AM   #210
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I thought Ubuntu 10.04 was really well made. Everything worked ootb but I just can't stand Gnome. And KDE is rather neglected by the devs their main focus is Gnome ...
So xubuntu might suit you ... or is Xfce not to your liking?
 
  


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