According with their site: http://freeslack.net/dokuwiki/doku.p...slackware_14.2 it "installs non-free software", then it is non-free and it was removed.

Reading the source code of this script, it does not "installs non-free software" and I want to understand why they lie and why they had been removed a valid "libre software".

Ha? We talk about software there, not about people feelings, right?

@ZhaoLin1457 has a valid point, because should have no importance the users intention. A valid "libre software" should be run for any purpose. According with the words of El Lider Maximo, at least.

Look, if I write a one line with just 'wget + link to windows repack' and declare this one line FOSS, it does not mean windows is FOSS.
Well, maybe in China it does, I'm not sure. Anyway, that binary it repacks it's not really free and open-source in EU, it has DRM and leaks surveillance data.

Sorry, but I talk about SlackBuild, not the subject and result of this script. Have importance what contains the "ar" archive which it looks for?

It is simply a "libre software" script for bash, source code available and licensed MIT, which process a binary file format to another binary file format.

The distributor can remove whatever, FOSS or not. You can't make him distribute, if he doesn't like it.
I don't think he's preventing you to get it elsewhere, and you're free to get it somewhere else if that's what you wanted to know.
If there was a mechanism which prevents you from doing that, then you could talk about freedoms being taken away.

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Its *only* use is to repackage a binary, closed-source package into a compatible Slackware package which the user can then install. There is no other purpose for this script. That is why they don't include it. If a user goes through the trouble of trying to run a libre version of Slackware, do you really think they're going to install Chrome?

At this point, it looks like some of you are just trying to find things to complain about. You know, it's really simple... if you're not interested in running a libre version of Slackware, guess what? You don't have to! Why go through and nitpick everything when you are fully aware of why they are doing what they're doing, even if you don't agree on their philosophies. Are you that closed minded that you think everything should be as you desire it? Let others have their own beliefs and stop forcing your beliefs on them.

According with their own claims, it is non-free, that's why wasn't included. Not "not useful for us"

Excuse me, but for me is a very interesting subject. Claims about user rights, freedoms, malware...

And how Slackware is the single Linux I know a bit, having an subject for making comparative relationships is very useful.

I do not try to make them to distribute this script, I only try to understand their removal claims from http://freeslack.net/dokuwiki/doku.p...slackware_14.2

They give a precise reason for removal.

What's so vague about "Installs non-free software"? Why do you call their statement a "lie"? Who are you to question their motives? Shouldn't you be elsewhere if you don't like what you see?

Could've fooled me, after the last couple of pages I was under the impression this thread was about dictatorship in south america.

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That script is *only* used to create a non-free package. There is no other benefit behind it. Sure, the script itself might be open source, but why include it if it would lead to the user getting a package that goes against what Freenix is about?

You had a big issue with a single word that I used... libre and tried to tie it to things it has no reason to be tied to. The premise behind Freenix is very simple. Take anything that doesn't meet the FSF's idea of free and open source software and remove it from Slackware. Comparing Freenix or those that want to run with libre software to things like communism, marxism, or any other thing seems like a big stretch. It is very simple to understand the FSF's philosophy on libre software, even if you don't agree with it or don't desire to follow it. So, why all the backlash for someone providing a Slackware-based product following the FSF's philosophy? Why has this thread devolved so far into the abyss just because someone is offering a libre version of Slackware? It's not like these changes are being incorporated into Slackware itself, so, unless you get an itch to try this, you will never be affected by it.

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Well, dear Frenemy, let me to explain the comedy...

I do not know if you are aware, living either in America, or Western Europe, but the communists used to have their specific slang for speeches.

We called it something like "wood language" and it is easy to recognize, for one who had in past to watch/hear those speeches. And was for them like a trademark, used probably everywhere, with some variations.

Now guess what? This Linux-libre thing looks like was initiated in South America, by gNewSense if I understand right. Also, from what I see, they decided to adopt the communist/revolutionary slang for promoting their thing.

Who know why? Maybe as marketing, in South America the Libre thing is something very attractive probably even today, or maybe they really believe to be revolutionaries and it is their Revolution?

And also looks like this speaking style was adopted by the other Linux-libres. Probably they imagine that is a trademark, something...

Long story short, this why I believe that @qweased arrived in this forum and start doing his thing, and using their slang. Which, like I said, is in fact the one used by communists in their speeches, at least in the past.

Myself I recognize that slang, the moment "WHAT? YOU COME WITH COMMIES WOOD LANGUAGE?" and the rest you had been read.

In other hand, our Chinese friend looks like wanting to demonstrate (out of pride?), that FSF is really Marxist.

So, you have a guy playing commie/revolutionary and using their "wood language", one with not so great memories about commies, and probably the third one is really a commie. Do the math.

In other hand, an interesting journey, for me, around FSF.

For example, did you heard about IceCat? Myself today I learned about its existence.

It is a fork of Firefox. Of course carefully "sanitized" by the GNU guys.

Basically, cutting out its plugins support, to not load blobs, if I understand right.

Oh, well...

Why to try ask why was removed all Mozillas from Freenix, then?

Let's be correct. About Marxist revolutionaries from South America, that's important because they was the archetypal enemies of those dictatorships.

At the moment, I also delete everything that is linked with Mozilla. :-)

P.S. Support for plugins is also broken in the main Mozilla branch. These guys are constantly breaking something. :-)