[SOLVED] Slackbuilds stable

Drakeo · 05-25-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by solarfields

for me the Slackware and SBo combination offers a good compromise. We have Slackware as a stable, conservative and very well tested base, combined with very recent and actively updated third party software.

how long does it take to compile qt5 with 8 cores. I know.
you try it.

Drakeo · 05-25-2018, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 55020

Hi Drakeo, I gather you have a problem with building qt5 from SlackBuilds.org?

If you are running Slackware 14.1, use qt5-5.5.1. This has not changed since November 2015.

If you are running Slackware 14.2, use qt5-5.7.1. This has not changed since February 2017.

If you are running -current, you are a beta tester. If you don't like being a beta tester, please go back to 14.2, where qt5 has been stable for 471 days.

Thanks for the feedback!

I have no issue with qt5. love kde5 great tool if Pat does not go that way or Bob's latest blob far from stable. Will seek another distro. been slack since 2004.
love the KDE team donate to them. none of them shoved qt 5 into slackware throats.

Drakeo · 05-25-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by montagdude

I like it how it works now. We get to have a nice stable base system (Slackware) while still getting the latest and greatest applications (SBo).

I disagree ask what part of cmake and qt in slackware work. Ton of work. try it out. take simple screen recorder use qt5 to build it I have builds for it. compile qt5 ok have fun fixing things.

Drakeo · 05-25-2018, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan

Also: everything on SBo is tested on a a complete new -stable installation.

Or at least it's supposed to be.

nope

volkerdi · 05-25-2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakeo

how long does it take to compile qt5 with 8 cores. I know.
you try it.

It takes 2.5 days on a single core Atom with 2GB RAM.

Skaendo · 05-25-2018, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakeo

how long does it take to compile qt5 with 8 cores. I know.
you try it.

4 hours 10 minutes

Intel Core i3 2130 @ 3.4 GHz & 8 GB RAM (2 core with HT/8 threads, -j8)

solarfields · 05-26-2018, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakeo

how long does it take to compile qt5 with 8 cores. I know.
you try it.

I make an exception for QT5 and install AlienBob's precompiled package.

55020 · 05-26-2018, 02:19 AM

Drakeo, if you're using ponce's github repo, you must be running current.

If you are running -current, you are a beta tester. Shit happens to beta testers. If you don't like shit happening to you, go back to 14.2.

If you are NOT running -current, don't use ponce's github repo.

Thread solved.

Alien Bob · 05-26-2018, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakeo

nope

YES! The scripts at slackbuilds.org are all tested by the admins.

They use a full installation of Slackware. Not including stuff from the /extra or /pasture directories.
You say "nope".
I would like that you explain which SlackBuild scripts on SBO are not working on a full installation of Slackware 14.2 (or on whatever version they are targeting).
Why are they not working in your opinion?

The SBo admins will test ZERO scripts on slackware-current when they are QA testing.

The repository with modifications / updates / patches that ponce is maintaining outside of SBo is targeting slackware-current but that git repository is not part of slackbuilds.org.

RadicalDreamer · 05-26-2018, 06:39 AM

qjackctl 0.4.1 for Slackware 14.1 has a dependency on qt5. qjackctl 0.3.9 for Slackware 14.0 does not. https://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=qjackctl+&sv=

Darth Vader · 05-26-2018, 07:58 AM

So, considering that qjackctl recomends itself to "provides a simple GUI dialog for setting several JACK daemon parameters" it is really and really need of compiling that huge crap which include even the Chromium and has tons of sensible dependencies...

Yeah, sure! But, last time when I compiled the Qt5, was about 6 hours in a Phenom x4 9650 at 2.3GHz, 8GB RAM, and mechanical hard drives.

Excuse me, but SBO started to look really ridiculous.

You guys forget that not all people buy annually a $5000 computer just to toy with your builds...

Darth Vader · 05-26-2018, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob

YES! The scripts at slackbuilds.org are all tested by the admins.

They use a full installation of Slackware. Not including stuff from the /extra or /pasture directories.

Yeah, man! BUT the users does not use clean full installations, because they install other packages, some even SBO generated.

THEN, it is safely to assume that the packages are built in "dirty" systems by the SBO users, so depending on what the user already installed, the build may or may not pick particular features.

Long story short, I believe that the SBO scripts never generate the same packages, because the particular conditions where the packages are built.

AND, how SBO lacks the support for build-dependencies and it is unable to check and tune them, it is safely to assume that this endeavor is a failed design from start.

GazL · 05-26-2018, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader

Lat time I compiled the Qt5, was about 6 hours in a Phenom x4 9650 at 2.3GHz, 8GB RAM, and mechanical hard drives.

Excuse me, but SBO Qt started to look really ridiculous.

Fixed that one for you.

Other than where to attribute blame, I'm in agreement though. That build time is unreasonable.

Qt is bloated and far to much effort to build.
gtk+ is a moving target app developers are constantly having to chase!

Motif may be a little ugly by present day standards but I'm starting to think it's the lesser of evils and that it's time for a revival!

solarfields · 05-26-2018, 08:25 AM

darth, you seem to be whining about something, but would you specify what it is that you don't approve about SBo? What would you change?

Darth Vader · 05-26-2018, 08:30 AM

It is simple: I believe that adding the Qt5 as dependency on SBO is purely madness.

Also, even thinking that someone thought to invite people to build Qt5 into "dirty" systems is laughable.

Looks like some people lives in a fantasy world with dragons, dungeons and 64 cores CPUs.

What I will change? I will remove every little bit of Qt5 from the SBO repositories.