Requests for -current (14.2-->15.0)

ZhaoLin1457 · 05-20-2019, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockywolf

Pulse is a pain, but at least it's a user-land pain, but a kernel-land pain.

I don't like it, and it conflicts with TiMidity (which actually is a TiMidity's fault, but still), and it's the app that gets broken most often when updating -current.

But I have to admit, nowadays it is much better than before, and it does make configuring Bluetooth audio easier.

The only feasible option I see to get rid of Pulse is to write a thin translation layer from the most used pulse api to, say, JACK's. But even if "feasible", that's still hell of a lot of work.

Basically, what Lennart is doing is completely against UNIX-way, and it's also not as well tested as you'd want a Mac-way software to be, but it's not possible to resist his endeavours by just ignoring him. Either an alternative should be found, or he's gonna be the only Linux desktop guru out there.

As demonstrated by Debian BSD and Debian Hurd, a GNU operating system like the ones which we call usually "Linux" can run quite well with other kernels than Mr. Torvalds' Linux.

However, I see no one crying in this forum about Mr. Volkerding's choice to use the Linux Kernel for his operating system and how this choice limits their own freedom to run the Hurd Kernel instead.

Just like some believes JACK do the things better than PulseAudio, others believes that a FreeBSD Kernel is more stable and safe than a Linux Kernel.

How nobody asks about supporting the BSD kernels, let's do the same about PulseAudio and let's us to respect the Mr. Volkerding's choice. He chosen the PulseAudio over JACK, then that case is closed.

Didier Spaier · 05-20-2019, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457

He chosen the PulseAudio over JACK

Patrick just can't ship every software on earth in Slackware, and PA has a wider target, that's all. But jack1 and jack2 are available from SBo. They do not compete with PA, just address different use cases. And you can use both jack and PA, as you can use both PA and the ALSA userspace programs. That just needs a proper configuration.

igadoter · 05-21-2019, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

That just needs a proper configuration.

That's the point the all of this.

LuckyCyborg · 05-21-2019, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

Patrick just can't ship every software on earth in Slackware, and PA has a wider target, that's all. But jack1 and jack2 are available from SBo. They do not compete with PA, just address different use cases. And you can use both jack and PA, as you can use both PA and the ALSA userspace programs. That just needs a proper configuration.

However, if you listen to the pulse-haters, they swear that JACK do all that PulseAudio do, but better.

Could be a confusion from their part?

orbea · 05-21-2019, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg

However, if you listen to the pulse-haters, they swear that JACK do all that PulseAudio do, but better.

Could be a confusion from their part?

Pulseaudio and jack fill completely different niches.

mats_b_tegner · 05-21-2019, 09:39 AM

Firefox ESR 60.7.0 is available:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/....source.tar.xz
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo.../releasenotes/

alex14641 · 05-21-2019, 06:07 PM

Mesa 19.0.5
Release notes: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archiv...ay/219471.html
Source: https://mesa.freedesktop.org/archive/mesa-19.0.5.tar.xz

Lockywolf · 05-21-2019, 11:39 PM

Is it possible to rename some font packages, for simplicity?

In particular, in -current, there are 36 font packages called "font-*", which is quite convenient.

The following package names don't start with 'font-', which is a bit inconvenient (11 of them):

Code:

/var/log/packages/dejavu-fonts-ttf-2.37-noarch-4
/var/log/packages/ghostscript-fonts-std-8.11-noarch-3
/var/log/packages/liberation-fonts-ttf-2.00.5-noarch-1
/var/log/packages/sazanami-fonts-ttf-20040629-noarch-3
/var/log/packages/sinhala_lklug-font-ttf-20060929-noarch-3
/var/log/packages/terminus-font-4.40-noarch-3
/var/log/packages/tibmachuni-font-ttf-1.901b-noarch-3
/var/log/packages/ttf-indic-fonts-0.5.14-noarch-3
/var/log/packages/urw-core35-fonts-otf-20170801_91edd6e_git-noarch-2
/var/log/packages/wqy-zenhei-font-ttf-0.8.38_1-noarch-7

I would also like to ask to add the following font from SBo, if possible:

Code:

/var/log/packages/wqy-microhei-font-ttf-0.2.0_beta-noarch-2_SBo

Rationale: wqy-zenhei is already included in -current, and these two fonts are very close in their origin, and essentially compliment each other. Their relationship is NOT like 'serif — sans-serif', but close to it. ZenHei looks blurry on big sizes, and but MicroHei is a bit too loose to be displayed where lots of text needs to be jammed into a small space.

jheengut · 05-22-2019, 02:21 AM

Hi,

There are no mentions of the option -M in mkinitrd manual.

But it is found when running mkinitrd --help

Code:

mkinitrd --help 

  -M      Add the files in /etc/modprobe.d/ and /lib/modprobe.d/ to the initrd

GazL · 05-22-2019, 03:37 AM

while we're on the subject of mkinitrd: '-u' hasn't had a purpose for a while as UDEV is required and 'on' by default. Might as well remove it (or change it to "provided for backward compatibility") while you're in there.

gmgf · 05-22-2019, 05:30 AM

glib-2.60.3:

http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sourc...ib-2.60.3.news
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sourc...-2.60.3.tar.xz

petslack · 05-22-2019, 06:47 AM

curl-7.65.0

https://curl.haxx.se/changes.html
https://github.com/curl/curl/release...-7.65.0.tar.xz
https://github.com/curl/curl/release...5.0.tar.xz.asc

mats_b_tegner · 05-22-2019, 08:51 AM

Samba 4.10.4
https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.10.4.html
https://download.samba.org/pub/samba...-4.10.4.tar.gz
https://download.samba.org/pub/samba...4.10.4.tar.asc

saahriktu · 05-22-2019, 12:05 PM

strace-5.1
https://github.com/strace/strace/rel...ace-5.1.tar.xz

saahriktu · 05-22-2019, 02:39 PM

bison-3.4.1
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bison/bison-3.4.1.tar.xz