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Old 05-19-2019, 08:25 AM   #3286
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update puleaudio source tarball for the new alsa Pat installed . so it will build
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...-a-4175654115/
Do we even need Pulse still?
 
Old 05-19-2019, 08:58 AM   #3287
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Do we even need Pulse still?
I find it useful. Makes it easier to manage inputs and outputs.
 
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Old 05-19-2019, 09:21 AM   #3288
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Do we even need Pulse still?
This part of the "we" says yes.
 
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Old 05-19-2019, 10:29 AM   #3289
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May I ask for

Code:
DOCUMENTATION_URL="https://docs.slackware.com/"
or

Code:
DOCUMENTATION_URL="https://www.slackwiki.com/Main_Page"
be added to /etc/os-release ?

These two sources seem to be almost officially endorsed by Slackware, and the first one is even found on a sub-domain of slackware.com.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 10:54 AM   #3290
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I find it useful. Makes it easier to manage inputs and outputs.
Most definitely!

I started using it years ago to solve a volume problem (too low).

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Old 05-19-2019, 11:26 AM   #3291
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Maybe update /etc/services with a more recent version?

Can be taken from:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/ser...rt-numbers.txt

I didn't find a services file in the FreeBSD tree, where the -current's one is coming from.
 
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Old 05-19-2019, 11:29 AM   #3292
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Do we even need Pulse still?
I don't know who's we, but I do. And even if it is no more shipped in Slackware (unlikely, me think) I will continue to ship it in Slint.

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Old 05-19-2019, 01:49 PM   #3293
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Most definitely!

I started using it years ago to solve a volume problem (too low).
It may be because I have ALSA-Only system and have employed Jack when I need it to do everything that Pulse can do and more with far greater efficiency but I do recall that at least at one time, back before Pulse was some sort of corporate wet dream, that simply enabling anything resembling the Equalizer in XMMS allowed the overall gain control to increase system volume. Of course that can also be accomplished with an entry in .asoundrc or just a better soundcard and/or amplifier but it was never rocket surgery. Pulse is a hand-holder that just "does it for you" which seems to me anathema to Slackware but then I am biased since I vehemently despise Pulse, not as a concept, but as a forced requirement. I fervently hope it devolves into merely "optional".
 
Old 05-19-2019, 02:19 PM   #3294
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I fervently hope it devolves into merely "optional".
Until some developer relies on it exclusively. Then your choice is to either use PA or patch the software locally, knowing that you patch is not guaranteed to survive an upgrade of the software, then either you are stuck with a version, or you have to re-write the patch, which is a waste of time. I tried to convince Jos Lemmens, author of daisy-player and ebook-reader, not to make of PA a hard dependency of these, without success so far. But I won't deprive users of these very useful software just because I would not want to ship PA.

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Old 05-19-2019, 02:21 PM   #3295
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polkit-0.116
https://www.freedesktop.org/software...t-0.116.tar.gz
 
Old 05-19-2019, 05:30 PM   #3296
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I tried to convince Jos Lemmens, author of daisy-player and ebook-reader,
Nice to see Jos mentioned here!
He's the (blind) brother of an ex-colleague of mine (Kees Lemmens) at the Delft University of Technology (HE's still working there, I'm retired).
 
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Old 05-19-2019, 06:14 PM   #3297
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It may be because I have ALSA-Only system and have employed Jack when I need it to do everything that Pulse can do and more with far greater efficiency but I do recall that at least at one time, back before Pulse was some sort of corporate wet dream, that simply enabling anything resembling the Equalizer in XMMS allowed the overall gain control to increase system volume. Of course that can also be accomplished with an entry in .asoundrc or just a better soundcard and/or amplifier but it was never rocket surgery. Pulse is a hand-holder that just "does it for you" which seems to me anathema to Slackware but then I am biased since I vehemently despise Pulse, not as a concept, but as a forced requirement. I fervently hope it devolves into merely "optional".
i threw everything but the kitchen sink at the problem, trying to avoid anything from what's-his-name, but in the end pulse was the solution.
 
Old 05-19-2019, 08:19 PM   #3298
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Pulse is a pain, but at least it's a user-land pain, but a kernel-land pain.

I don't like it, and it conflicts with TiMidity (which actually is a TiMidity's fault, but still), and it's the app that gets broken most often when updating -current.

But I have to admit, nowadays it is much better than before, and it does make configuring Bluetooth audio easier.

The only feasible option I see to get rid of Pulse is to write a thin translation layer from the most used pulse api to, say, JACK's. But even if "feasible", that's still hell of a lot of work.

Basically, what Lennart is doing is completely against UNIX-way, and it's also not as well tested as you'd want a Mac-way software to be, but it's not possible to resist his endeavours by just ignoring him. Either an alternative should be found, or he's gonna be the only Linux desktop guru out there.

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Old 05-19-2019, 11:11 PM   #3299
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Basically, what Lennart is doing is completely against UNIX-way, and it's also not as well tested as you'd want a Mac-way software to be
Really? Please do not confuse PA and systemd. systemd makes use of feature of Linux not defined by POSIX (aka extensions), but PA doesn't AFAIK. And at least one version of MacOS is UNIX certified.

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Old 05-20-2019, 10:41 AM   #3300
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ImageMagick 6.9.10-46
https://imagemagick.org/download/Ima...9.10-46.tar.lz
https://imagemagick.org/download/Ima...-46.tar.lz.asc
From the ChangeLog:
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2019-05-14 6.9.10-46 Cristy <quetzlzacatenango@image...>
* Release ImageMagick version 6.9.10-46, GIT revision 14492:fb2f64950:20190518

2019-05-14 6.9.10-46 Cristy <quetzlzacatenango@image...>
* Builds under MacOS X and FreeBSD works again.
* Return HEIC images in the sRGB colorspace.
 
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