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Old 01-28-2019, 01:17 PM   #2716
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Anybody knows why Thunar contains .la files?
Slackware-current does not contains .la files or I'm wrong?
I'm not sure where the .la files are for Thunar, but according to Pat, we should only be removing the files in /lib{64}/ and /usr/lib{64}/. Any others should remain in place.

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The .la files that are outside of
the LD_LIBRARY_PATH were not removed (and shouldn't be) - those ones are
often used by the lt_dlopen() function to load plugins and removing those
ones can break things. But those ones don't cause problems... they aren't
likely to try to infect .la files produced by other packages.
 
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:00 PM   #2717
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I'm going to second adding 'mousepad' (text editor for XFCE). Setting up a KDE-free system on my new 2in1 has proved to me just how much I actually rely on KDE apps. I think it's kind of shocking that mousepad or a similar editor isn't included in the base XFCE distribution already, but that's beside the point. If you install all packagesets except kde and kdei, you get a DE with a file-manager (Thunar), a terminal emulator (xfce4-terminal), a web browser (Firefox) and a mailreader (Thunderbird), but no *simple* graphical text editor (and no, xedit doesn't count ;-)

The only dependency that isn't in Slackware already is gtksourceview, either 2.x or 3.x (should probably be an optional dependency IMO, but again, beside the point).
 
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:03 PM   #2718
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Leafpad works well in Xfce without additional dependencies.

http://www.slackbuilds.org/repositor...ffice/leafpad/
 
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:38 PM   #2719
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Arguably, you already get Gvim and that Emacs GUI with Xfce. However, mousepad is more appropriate if you are using Xfce IMHO.
 
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:05 PM   #2720
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Yes leafpad would work too. Just figured mousepad is technically an official part of xfce, in the 'apps' dir on their ftp.

Sure you get emacs and vim which have X versions. But these are very advanced editors. Users migrating from Windows or Mac would expect a more simple text editor such as Notepad for jotting down quick notes or editing config files if they haven't learned Vi or emacs yet or have no interest in doing so.
 
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Old 01-29-2019, 03:09 AM   #2721
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While it is not part of xfce i use SciTE https://scintilla.org/SciTE.html a really nice, fast and light weight editor.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 08:04 AM   #2722
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xf86-video-nouveau 1.0.16

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archiv...ry/032053.html

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Full log below, but most notably:
- Better 30bpp handling
- DP-MST hotplug support
- DRI3/Present support in the presence of rotated RandR screens
- Updates for various Xorg API changes
- Autoconf cleanups
 
Old 01-29-2019, 11:35 AM   #2723
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Generic Kernel

Since the default file system seems to be ext4, why can't this just be built-in to the generic kernel? Then, there would be no need for an initrd to be built. Those that choose other file systems or perhaps raid or luks/lvm, would still need to create the initrd. It would just eliminate a step for a large portion of users.

The initrd is not hard, nor is rebuilding a kernel with ext4 built in. I reckon I'm just getting lazy in my older age. You'd think having recently retired I'd have all the time I need......
 
Old 01-29-2019, 12:18 PM   #2724
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Hi,

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Since the default file system seems to be ext4
I haven't installed fresh system for quite some time now, but I wouldn't bet on that statement.
As far as I remember, the default fs is the one you format your drive with ;-)

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Old 01-29-2019, 01:09 PM   #2725
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My crystal ball predicts that in a not_so_distant future there will be no more huge kernel shipped in Slacwkare, but an initrd will be automatically built and installed whenever needed (i.e., at end of installation and after a kernel upgrade). If this happens, no worries about ext4, if needed it will be included in the initrd.

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Old 01-29-2019, 01:50 PM   #2726
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Thunderbird-60.5.0

Tarball, https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderb....source.tar.xz

What's new, https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/th.../releasenotes/

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Old 01-29-2019, 01:52 PM   #2727
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I haven't installed fresh system for quite some time now, but I wouldn't bet on that statement.
As far as I remember, the default fs is the one you format your drive with ;-)
If you have unformatted space (but partitioned), the installer will prompt you to format the partition(s) and presents you several options, and I believe the first one is ext4.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 03:04 PM   #2728
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Since the default file system seems to be ext4, why can't this just be built-in to the generic kernel?
+1

It's no more 1995 where disks costs and space were a premium, now days we get 2TB sata's for under 100 bux.

Though on servers I run custom images without bloat, but include basics like fs, ether, and other needed drivers, cant remember last time I ever loaded a module
 
Old 01-29-2019, 03:18 PM   #2729
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What's wrong with the initrd, excluding the users' laziness to make one? It is around of 15 years since Fedora or Ubuntu requires one, and nobody died yet because of it.

Surprisingly is only that was a need of 15 years for Slackware to invent its own way to automatize this initrd creation.

I guess, nobody looked into Arch source code, meantime? Notably, they have a fine initrd management. With hooks.

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Old 01-30-2019, 01:21 AM   #2730
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What's wrong with the initrd, excluding the users' laziness to make one? It is around of 15 years since Fedora or Ubuntu requires one, and nobody died yet because of it.

Surprisingly is only that was a need of 15 years for Slackware to invent its own way to automatize this initrd creation.

I guess, nobody looked into Arch source code, meantime? Notably, they have a fine initrd management. With hooks.
whats the point of having one... and RedHat have always had one on their desktop platform, even back to redhat desktop 3 (I started on slackware, moved to RH on desktop about 3 and stayed until they EOL'd it at 9 and turned it into that clusterf### fedora).

Just because they do it doesnt mean it is needed, it isnt, clearly, and those running servers likely are also running custom kernels without it. in 2019 , heh, even if it way 2009, i'd still be saying, there is no point.
 
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