Need to stop compiz,reinstall very slow logins and logouts
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Distribution: Slackware 13.0, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP Pro SP3
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Need to stop compiz,reinstall very slow logins and logouts
Ok at first when my Noobness of Ubuntu struck Slackware. I decided to install compiz-install.sh I found on a random website.(which I should have not done)
Turned out the emerald was messed up and the ccsm wouldnt control the compiz. Really messy. I stopped and ignored it. Ran a simple non-compiz desktop.
So now I tried getting the proper source and build packages of compiz-fusion and emerald.
At first I had no window borders but then I installed emerald from source and used
Code:
emerald --replace
All good?
Nope, the ccsm wont correspond and my slackware has gone terribly slow. Normally it takes about a second to logout. Now it spends 20 seconds.
Is there any way to revert all this?? I dont mind altering my other settings because I have only installed flash and openoffice which supposedly do not get effected.
Or possibly kill every process? I compiled my files in that folder would it be ok if I moved them or deleted them?
should effectively shut down compiz (run the command in a terminal). There are tons of compiz threads on these forums, so searching should help you out if you still want to use it. I would recommend the SlackBuilds at slackbuilds.org for CCSM, the fusion-icon and their dependencies if you want to run compiz. They work well and you don't need to fiddle with running a very long command just to get compiz up and running (the fusion-icon package takes care of it all). However, I would not recommend compiz for daily use -- it's just too finicky and unstable. But that's just my opinion, and if you really want to use it, go for it.
Distribution: Slackware 13.0, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP Pro SP3
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Originally Posted by T3slider
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kwin --replace &
should effectively shut down compiz (run the command in a terminal). There are tons of compiz threads on these forums, so searching should help you out if you still want to use it. I would recommend the SlackBuilds at slackbuilds.org for CCSM, the fusion-icon and their dependencies if you want to run compiz. They work well and you don't need to fiddle with running a very long command just to get compiz up and running (the fusion-icon package takes care of it all). However, I would not recommend compiz for daily use -- it's just too finicky and unstable. But that's just my opinion, and if you really want to use it, go for it.
Nevermind about the killing compiz thing. I just reinstalled slackware (tried debian too and gave up because my ISO didnt have gnome, wouldn't bother anyway) because I wasn't too far off in slackware.
As in you feel its unstable in slackware and other lightweight distros or did you try it in ubuntu and found it unstable?
Because as an ubuntu user I am pretty much used to have compiz-fusion running at all times. Is there a simple alternative whatsoever?
Because my computer is rather capable and seeing that slackware is so light (i ran 300 terminals, 50 firefox browsers, on a Core2Duo 2.0 2MB L2Cache very light compared to anything I have ever seen).
Well, if you want gnome, I've got some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that Slack doesn't come with gnome. The good news is that there are some excellent projects which provide stable installations of gnome (and a lot of other useful stuff IMHO), such as Gnome SlackBuild (GSB) and Dropline Gnome (DLG), and although I have no direct experience with it, there is GnomeSlacky at slacky.it. GSB's compiz install with all the fusion and emerald stuff works great "out of the box". I had the same experience with DLG, although I had to grab the packages from one of the forum posters. And all three are pretty effortless installs.
OTOH, I think that compiz is still inherently unstable regardless of the distro.
Distribution: Slackware 13.0, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP Pro SP3
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Well, if you want gnome, I've got some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that Slack doesn't come with gnome. The good news is that there are some excellent projects which provide stable installations of gnome (and a lot of other useful stuff IMHO), such as Gnome SlackBuild (GSB) and Dropline Gnome (DLG), and although I have no direct experience with it, there is GnomeSlacky at slacky.it. GSB's compiz install with all the fusion and emerald stuff works great "out of the box". I had the same experience with DLG, although I had to grab the packages from one of the forum posters. And all three are pretty effortless installs.
OTOH, I think that compiz is still inherently unstable regardless of the distro.
Brian
Nah, I am starting to like xfce, its light and every application is a right click away. But what's really bothering me is would my compiz installation be stable. As in I found Ubuntu's compiz packages relatively stable. And never had problems with it since Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 LTS
I personally think compiz is too unstable on any distro (I don't particularly like the app itself), but it should be roughly as stable on Slackware as on Ubuntu (but I'm not entirely positive since I turned compiz off on the only Ubuntu install I've tried). Go ahead and try it. I would suggest using the compiz stuff at slackbuilds.org -- it's the most complete. It recommends a build order, so you should build and install the applications in that order. Search for CCSM if you can't find the compiz stuff -- that will get you there. I would *highly* recommend the fusion-icon package if you use compiz. It eliminates most of the potential problems you could face.
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Ok, I have just installed all the packages which might cause carpel tunnel or something lol. It was a mega list.
How do I start it?
I tried, though not extensively, to try to find something related to my situation. I think I have got every package nailed but i didnt run the command
Code:
umask 0022
at all, dont know if that would effect the builds. Also, I ran it as a root user (sorry, I just didnt want to get prompted all the time as well as I wanted to keep all my messy compiles away from my personal files so I dont get mixed up or confused).
I am sure to keep this only in my home and not in root.
So Basically, getting all the SlackBuilds down from source is the best! Although time consuming and they risk the chance of getting spasms in your arm.
But nothing feels better than scrolling back through a million words of compilation.
Ok wait, now I how do I run these at X for my 'mongoose'(non-root profile). I think there is some sort of file but I don't know which. i did try running these in the Autostarted Applications under Settings but they didn't do anything.
Last edited by mongoosecage; 06-30-2008 at 11:42 AM.
Reason: I GOT COMPIZ-FUSION WORKING FROM SOURCE!!!!! YEAH!!!
Run the command `fusion-icon` as your regular user in X and it will place a small icon in your status bar in XFCE (or whatever other WM/DE you use). It may automatically start compiz as well. To set options, right-click the fusion icon in your status bar and play around with the options.
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Run the command `fusion-icon` as your regular user in X and it will place a small icon in your status bar in XFCE (or whatever other WM/DE you use). It may automatically start compiz as well. To set options, right-click the fusion icon in your status bar and play around with the options.
didnt work... but I would preferably just add it to some sort of x file. Besides if I want to upgrade to Firefox 3 how do I do that? upgradepkg or something?
didnt work... but I would preferably just add it to some sort of x file.
That literally does not help us help you at all. Saying it didn't work is pointless. Describe the problem! As for adding it to an X file, I would try that only after you have it working manually. Limit the number of things that can be screwed up. For upgrading to Firefox 3, it depends where you are getting the package. Again, more information is needed. If you just download the package from the Firefox website, then running `upgradepkg filename` would be disastrous. If you have a Slackware package for Firefox 3, then running `upgradepkg filename` would work. There *is* a Firefox 3 package in slackware-current, and it will probably work, but I would not recommend using packages in -current for use in Slackware 12.1 (or anything pre-current). If you actually read the forums, there are a few very lengthy threads about Firefox 3 that include both prebuilt packages and SlackBuilds. I would recommend reading them. For example, this thread, this thread and this thread (closer to the end for that last one).
I think you should read the slackbook to get started with Slackware -- it will help you immensely.
Distribution: Slackware 13.0, Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP Pro SP3
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like I type
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bash-3.1# fusion-icon
bash: fusion-icon: command not found
Yeah, and I have installed the fusion-icon. Sorry for being so vague these two times, but getting a bit busy. I will take a look at all of the threads that you have sent me and I will read the slackbook during my free time. I greatly appreciate the time you have put to help me learn Slackware.
This answer won't really help you learn anything, but if you want any easy answer... The team over at slacky.it has already made slackware packages of compiz-fusion. all you have to do is download all of the .tgz packages here http://repository.slacky.eu/slackwar...-fusion/0.7.4/
installpkg *.tgz and your done.
now start the fusion-icon and set your settings and you should be good. Assuming you have your your video card drivers installed correctly and you have compositing enabled in your xorg.conf file.
I would also uninstall anything related to compiz-fusion you already have just to be safe.
Like T3SLider said, be as detailed as you possibly can when you have a question it makes things easier. There has never been a problem yet that the community here hasn't solved for me, you just have to be very clear on what is going on.
Stick with slackware, once you get it figured out you will come to appreciate that even though things maybe a little more complicated its worth it, trust us.
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As for your missing fusion-icon command, that can either mean that you didn't compile the fusion-icon application correctly or that you didn't install the fusion-icon package correctly. There should be a /usr/bin/fusion-icon package. Try running it with the full path /usr/bin/fusion-icon. When compiling the fusion-icon application, were there any errors on the screen? If you can't remember, try rerunning the SlackBuild. Did you remember to install the package the SlackBuild created using installpkg as root? What does the following command return:
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lol, ok I just figured it out, I was way too busy with my Ubuntu and Windows computers for the moment so couldn't spend much time on it, yeap, I didnt compile the fusion-icon correctly or something. Probably because I got too tired. But ran into another problem which I assume must be very common and joke to you. My scroller isn't working on my mouse which irritates me a bit. Is there some sort of file or something I have to add?
On the side note, by 'x file' I meant a profile file of some sort. I heard of it while learning Ubuntu but I was fine with Sessions Preferences. In slackware the autostarted application does what it says but doesnt do commands like
Code:
emerald -replace
which is no problem now.
BTW, is there a way to move all my compiz settings over to another computer? Its too much work to get them the same way as in my laptop.
Its my bad, because I got a bit fussy and I wanted Compiz-Fusion to pretend like it was embedded into the Slackware as Ubuntu did. In Ubuntu the Live CD itself ran on compiz-fusion. Now that I have the icon I feel its better to have an icon for it in case it crashes.
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