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05-22-2014, 08:53 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2009
Location: McKinney, Texas
Distribution: Slackware64 15.0
Posts: 3,860
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Originally Posted by Fixit7
I feel that I am pretty patient.
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I have used 15 + distros of Linux.
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Giving up on a linux distribution after 6 hours because you couldn't figure out how to configure wireless networking isn't what I'd personally call patient. Especially since you didn't even ask here for help on the matter (which might be difficult without a networking connection but you managed to ask about the GUI).
So, I think that TracyTiger's remark that Slackware probably isn't the right distro for you is pretty much on the mark. There's nothing wrong with that, BTW; there are aspects of RedHat/Centos that drive me batsh*t and many thousands of people use those every day.
I think I'd also recommend that you stay away from Linux From Scratch. Maybe Gentoo also (although that would be for the amount of time that you'd have to wait for the stuff to compile more than anything else).
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05-22-2014, 10:17 AM
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#17
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,347
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Originally Posted by Fixit7
Please spell out more things like LQ. ??
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Linux Questions.
Also, I was the person who reported this thread to be moved and renamed. The correct thing to do when you ask about whether Slackware has a GUI is to frame it as a technical question ("how do I start X in Slackware"), post it in this forum, and then to keep the thread on-topic. It is not to start a thread called "Slackware" in the Linux - General forum, a thread which now seems like it wasn't intended to ask for help.
Last edited by dugan; 05-22-2014 at 09:02 PM.
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05-22-2014, 04:12 PM
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#18
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Member
Registered: Jan 2012
Location: Directly above the center of the earth
Distribution: Slackware. There's something else?
Posts: 383
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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium
Giving up on a linux distribution after 6 hours because you couldn't figure out how to configure wireless networking isn't what I'd personally call patient. Especially since you didn't even ask here for help on the matter (which might be difficult without a networking connection but you managed to ask about the GUI).
So, I think that TracyTiger's remark that Slackware probably isn't the right distro for you is pretty much on the mark. There's nothing wrong with that, BTW; there are aspects of RedHat/Centos that drive me batsh*t and many thousands of people use those every day.
I think I'd also recommend that you stay away from Linux From Scratch. Maybe Gentoo also (although that would be for the amount of time that you'd have to wait for the stuff to compile more than anything else).
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Linux isn't really so hard to use. A year or so ago a 'friend' of my moms moved in. He consisdered himself a 'techie'. He of course set up his computer in my moms office room (there was more than enough room for both).
He of course was a Winbloz user. He'd never even heard of Linux but had heard of but never used UNIX.
One day I find out he had a second identical system and had talked my mom out of stopping the use of her Slackware system and into using this setup, conning her with the ease of use and how much more she could do blah, blah, blah.
Until one day he was gone somewhere for a couple of days to visit his son and she asked me for some help with the Winbloz e-mail client.
Last time I used Winbloz was WinME. When I sat at this system, I was barely able to get around, much less find the 'problem' and help her (and I honestly did try. Curiosity *made* me keep at it for almost 10 hours straight!). I finally gave up and told her she was an idiot to stop using her system and she agreed, by also saying "All this things is good for is solitaire".
I made her turn it off and start using her system again after having tried and tried for better than a week on the Winbloz system. She was once again happy.
Me, I vowed then and there to never again sit at a Winblowz system and do *anything* with it. They can keep that garbage.
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05-22-2014, 07:37 PM
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#19
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Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2009
Location: McKinney, Texas
Distribution: Slackware64 15.0
Posts: 3,860
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Well, the OP claims to have run over 15 distrobutions of Linux prior to this, so whatever issues he has with Slackware are perhaps because it didn't try to guess how he wants his system configured. (Or wasn't as helpful as the others to get his system configured the way that he wanted it.)
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05-23-2014, 10:54 AM
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#20
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Senior Member
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: El Lago, Texas
Distribution: Ubuntu_Mate 16.04
Posts: 1,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Cranium
Well, the OP claims to have run over 15 distrobutions of Linux prior to this, so whatever issues he has with Slackware are perhaps because it didn't try to guess how he wants his system configured. (Or wasn't as helpful as the others to get his system configured the way that he wanted it.)
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So are you saying that Mint and Debian do guess ?
Andy
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05-23-2014, 12:02 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,727
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Originally Posted by Fixit7
Slackware could not get my wireless network going.
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Not much info to go on there. With wifi hardware:
1) Identify the hardware - search the web for it
2) If it's a broadcom device, that usually means firmware which cannot be distributed due to restrictive licensing...
3) ... or you might need a vendor driver
4) Or if it's a really new device it might be supported but only in a newer kernel
Either you research this and post a properly formatted question - or if you don't want to make the effort, you use a distro / OS where your wifi works out of the box.
Last edited by cynwulf; 05-23-2014 at 12:06 PM.
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1 members found this post helpful.
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05-23-2014, 01:34 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: RHELtopia....
Distribution: Solaris 11.2/Slackware/RHEL/
Posts: 1,491
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Why did you take up everyones time by asking them to look at your problem if you weren't going to try to fix it?
Be a little considerate, dude. Seriously.
If the next time you post a question and everybody just ignores you... well you'll understand why, wont you?
Last edited by dijetlo; 05-23-2014 at 01:42 PM.
Reason: Couldn't figure out how to hyphenate "@sshat"
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2 members found this post helpful.
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05-23-2014, 05:20 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: El Lago, Texas
Distribution: Ubuntu_Mate 16.04
Posts: 1,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dijetlo
Why did you take up everyones time by asking them to look at your problem if you weren't going to try to fix it?
Be a little considerate, dude. Seriously.
If the next time you post a question and everybody just ignores you... well you'll understand why, wont you?
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I do not feel like I took up somebodies time.
I just chose to go with another distro that sets up a wifi network right out of the box.
Like Debian and Ubuntu.
If you previously used Working Brand Light bulbs and then bought Brand X light bulbs and they did not work, would you buy more Brand X ?
Andy
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05-23-2014, 05:36 PM
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#24
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Slackware Maintainer
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Minnesota
Distribution: Slackware! :-)
Posts: 2,845
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixit7
I do not feel like I took up somebodies time.
I just chose to go with another distro that sets up a wifi network right out of the box.
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Sorry the installer required reading skills...
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5 members found this post helpful.
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05-23-2014, 05:50 PM
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#25
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixit7
If you previously used Working Brand Light bulbs and then bought Brand X light bulbs and they did not work, would you buy more Brand X ?
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That's not what happened.
You missed a prompt in the installer to enable wifi configuration (which is understandable), and you ignored help on how to set it up after the fact (which really isn't).
Last edited by dugan; 05-23-2014 at 05:58 PM.
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05-23-2014, 07:38 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2009
Location: McKinney, Texas
Distribution: Slackware64 15.0
Posts: 3,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixit7
So are you saying that Mint and Debian do guess ?
Andy
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You appear to have missed this portion of my reply...
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(Or wasn't as helpful as the others to get his system configured the way that he wanted it.)
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...so I'm starting to understand why you don't want to deal with text.
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3 members found this post helpful.
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05-23-2014, 08:51 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: RHELtopia....
Distribution: Solaris 11.2/Slackware/RHEL/
Posts: 1,491
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<shrug>
Last edited by dijetlo; 05-23-2014 at 08:58 PM.
Reason: Who is learning here? Then what are we doing?
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05-23-2014, 09:02 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: El Lago, Texas
Distribution: Ubuntu_Mate 16.04
Posts: 1,374
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugan
That's not what happened.
You missed a prompt in the installer to enable wifi configuration (which is understandable), and you ignored help on how to set it up after the fact (which really isn't).
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You are quite wrong.
It needed external drivers which were not available.
Try again.
Andy
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05-23-2014, 09:06 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Registered: Mar 2014
Location: El Lago, Texas
Distribution: Ubuntu_Mate 16.04
Posts: 1,374
Original Poster
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I feel blessed that most folks here choose not to argue with facts or to "selectively" NOT answer posts because they are in error.
Andy
And it does not bother me one iota if my rep stays at one box. :-)
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05-23-2014, 09:09 PM
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#30
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixit7
It needed external drivers which were not available.
Try again.
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Well, you didn't say that, didn't say how you knew, didn't respond to recommendations, and didn't make a post to address the problem of the external drivers being supposedly required but not available (which would have gotten the issue solved). You are the one who needs to try again.
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And it does not bother me one iota if my rep stays at one box. :-)
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I suggest disabling your rep if you feel that way.
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I feel blessed that most folks here choose not to argue with facts or to "selectively" NOT answer posts because they are in error.
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Do you have any examples to quote, or is this a blatant lie?
Last edited by dugan; 05-23-2014 at 09:16 PM.
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