Hi all, what do you want to see on slackware desktop in future?
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I never understood what is so scary about cfdisk or cgdisk. The truly frightening thing IMHO is exactly an automated partitioner. Something that directly wipes out my hard disk? No thanks.
A "just wipe the hard disk and install Slackware" option could be included into setup. It would save a step during setting up VMs and should only be available when only one hard disk is present.
But any more than that is not needed, because any more advanced partitioning is subject to specialized tools. There is no need to duplicate that functionality inside the installer.
I never understood what is so scary about cfdisk or cgdisk. The truly frightening thing IMHO is exactly an automated partitioner. Something that directly wipes out my hard disk? No thanks.
Just ask an average PC user what a partition is. And there is nothing wrong with fdisk or its cousins. And no, I will personally NOT use the automated partitioner.
I never understood what is so scary about cfdisk or cgdisk. The truly frightening thing IMHO is exactly an automated partitioner. Something that directly wipes out my hard disk? No thanks.
Every time I use an automated partition I keep thinking to myself "I hope it doesn't wipe my existing partitions"
Gnome. Imo KDE started going wrong about version 2.
Whereas in my opinion gnome has been "going wrong" from day 1 and version 3 is about as "going wrong" as it gets...
While KDE is far from perfect, at least it's a usable traditional desktop - i.e. not some tablet UI nonsense - with an abundance in terms of features, options and configuration. KDE apps are also pretty good on the whole.
It might be nice to see some of the stuff in the SlackBuilds repository make it in the official distro, but I'd rather be sure the core of the system remained stable.
It might be nice to see some of the stuff in the SlackBuilds repository make it in the official distro, but I'd rather be sure the core of the system remained stable.
it will be included whenever it's considered necessary
Gnome. Imo KDE started going wrong about version 2.
Perhaps you weren't yet on Slackware when Patrick made the decision to dump Gnome but I assure you it was not a decision he took lightly as there are many who like it. He explained his reasons and they were valid then and even more valid now. IIRC even Ubuntu, with all their money and staff, was default Gnome-based until it just became more trouble than it is worth.
I used to install Dropline just to have the plethora of GTK libraries already present, but I won't be doing that anymore. This is no reflection on the hardworking fellows behind Dropline, it's just that Patrick was right. Gnome apparently isn't interested in compatibility. They appear to want to be a distro all unto themselves.
KDE, OTOH, has steadily improved the application of QT and outclassed GTK, while managing to deliver a "full boat" DE to cover a lot of niche desires while still allowing it to be stripped down to bare essentials. It is not without some warts and decisions to drop things I wish they'd kept but it is an amazing achievement nonetheless.
Try using Xfce for say one month, checking the startup boxes to load Gnome libraries for one month and then KDE libraries the next. Maybe I'm just biased, but I can see a clear difference in compatibility and function.
Room for improvement ? OK, I'd say please package and include mozilla-firefox-l10n-$LANG and mozilla-thunderbird-l10n-$LANG in the official release. All the other missing packages I can take care of, but these two are moving targets, a real PITA to build and keep in sync.
What I did was writing a script that creates a package out of the xpi (it tries to detect the language from $LANG, but this can be overridden on the command-line); it also downloads the xpi automatically using tools like lftp, wget, curl etc. (it checks for some of them). So I run:
Code:
script -p -f -l fr
to build (hopefully) a working french package for firefox (the version can also be specified, but by default it tries to get it from /var/log/packages); without -f, it creates a thunderbird package, as that was the default. Without -p, it just downloads the xpi file into the current directory. I had some help from ruario's latest-firefox script as well as Arch Linux' PKGBUILDs, as I'm not that advanced when it comes to creating Slackware packages or writing scripts, but I have been using my script for some time now on my parents' laptop and my desktop.
However, if there were official packages from Patrick Volkerding, I would welcome that, of course. I was just tired of manually installing the xpi file in thunderbird and firefox everytime a new version was released.
lems
Last edited by lems; 05-13-2014 at 02:05 PM.
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A "just wipe the hard disk and install Slackware" option could be included into setup. It would save a step during setting up VMs and should only be available when only one hard disk is present.
FYI there is one in Salix installer (attached is the version included in Salix64-xfce-14.1). It scans for hard disks and asks the user which one to use, and that works well. But Salix has a different target audience, and I wouldn't bet that Pat will include it in Slackware installers (and I won't do that in Slint installers either :-). The downside of doing that automatically is that that user can't choose neither the layout nor the file system, at least the way it's done. But this is optional, of course, and probably fits the needs of most people who choose that option.
Last edited by Didier Spaier; 05-13-2014 at 04:35 PM.
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