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Old 05-12-2014, 02:03 PM   #16
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Click-`n'-drool? Bah, humbug. Got all the tools anybody needs to do what needs doing.

No branding, close as possible to upstream developers' intent, what else can you ask for.
 
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:52 PM   #17
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I'd love to see LibreOffice become a standard.
Would be nice, although at several hours to compile, I understand why LO is not a standard package. Would be nice if a tgz package was supported directly through the LO channel, like debs and rpms. For now the SBo or Eric's packages will have to do.

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See this link-->http://qtgzmanager.wordpress.com/
Hmm. The last announcement was more than a year ago. The package is perfect or development has ceased?

Also the tool is Qt. Now that Cinnamon and Mate are becoming popular among Slackers, a GTK wrapper to slackpkg would be nice.

GUI tools are always a contentious topic in this forum. I don't recall anybody who has asked for such tools demand that the GUI versions be standard. I think most such requests have been in the context of wrappers or front-ends to existing command line tools. /extra is a good place for such additions. That seems a reasonable compromise for both sides of the never-ending debate. Command line users don't change anything while GUI front-ends encourage the technically challenged to use Slackware.

All of the Debian derivatives and Debian have GUI package managers and all of them are wrappers or front-ends to apt. Nothing stops advanced users from opening a terminal and using apt but the GUI front-ends remain available to those who want them.

A challenge is who jumps forward to maintain any such Slackware GUI front-end?
 
Old 05-12-2014, 04:23 PM   #18
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The cloud and desktop advertisements?
 
Old 05-12-2014, 04:41 PM   #19
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xine-1.2.xx instead of xine-lib-1.1.21
Oh, come on. Can't you just change the version number in the SlackBuild and see if it's compiling?

Sometimes people here stumble over the simplest things and I wonder how they even managed to install Slackware in the first place.

No offence, but if you're using Slackware you should know how to build your own packages.

BTW, I'm fine with Slackware. But gstreamer could really see an official update soon.

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Old 05-12-2014, 05:02 PM   #20
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a good package manager, and a GUI one would be more popular. The business users should want to be well supported, but a few libs and softwares can't be found from the repos
Pkgtools is perfect. I wouldn't want any /etc/rc.d/rc.crap-get automagically installing whole kitchen sinks, less so in GUI mode.

Room for improvement ? OK, I'd say please package and include mozilla-firefox-l10n-$LANG and mozilla-thunderbird-l10n-$LANG in the official release. All the other missing packages I can take care of, but these two are moving targets, a real PITA to build and keep in sync.

My two cents.
 
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Old 05-12-2014, 05:15 PM   #21
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I can just join the chorus! If I want a one-click for everything, I wouldn't be using slackware!
Currently, absolutely _all_ my computers are running slackware (though I like to check out a new shiny toy every now and then - as a true distro-hoe - but then by multi-booting). I would _never_ remove slackware from any computer!
 
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Old 05-12-2014, 05:19 PM   #22
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OK, I'd say please package and include mozilla-firefox-l10n-$LANG and mozilla-thunderbird-l10n-$LANG in the official release. All the other missing packages I can take care of, but these two are moving targets, a real PITA to build and keep in sync.

My two cents.
Only if you build them. Just repackage the localised binaries.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 05:27 PM   #23
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a good package manager, and a GUI one would be more popular.
Along with a few other distros, Slackware can't be called 'just another distro'. Although it serves well as a universal distro, it particularly meets the needs of certain kind of users who value stability and simplicity, who do not care much for gui tools and are not afraid of (and enjoy) configure/manage the system using cli tools. What you're suggesting is making Slackware like 'yet another distro'. I do not understand why you would want to do it. If you like the way eg. OpenSuse handles things, use OpenSuse. If you like the wealth of applications of Debian, use Debian. I don't understand who you would want to try to turn Slackware into another distro. It would lose most of what it offers or stands for now.

The beauty of the Linux world is that there's choice. A lot of distros are unique and let us keep it that way, I think.

Edit: by the way, what is wrong with a package manager in Slackware?
 
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:09 PM   #24
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Kate Beckinsale on the Desktop.......
 
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:22 PM   #25
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Oh, come on. Can't you just change the version number in the SlackBuild and see if it's compiling?

Sometimes people here stumble over the simplest things and I wonder how they even managed to install Slackware in the first place.

No offence, but if you're using Slackware you should know how to build your own packages.

BTW, I'm fine with Slackware. But gstreamer could really see an official update soon.
If I request for an upgrade, that doesn't mean I can't perform that one myself!
It does not hurt to ask...you did the same with gstreamer after all.

To my knowledge, xfce-mixer does not link with gstreamer-1.x (not yet...maybe in xfce 4.12..?); if you have some talent in programming, you may help the xfce team and make from gstreamer-1.X an opportunity for upgrade.
 
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:51 PM   #26
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Running Slackware on a bunch of machines in 3 locations - for about 10 years now.

I'm happy to leave it to Pat and the crew to decide what they put in. IMO They have done a pretty good job so far. As a technical/scientific user I find Slackware already has most of what I need, and it is logical enough that I can easily add extra stuff and fully understand what is going on with my systems.

Maybe I'd support the suggestion for Libreoffice to be standard - but really it's not that hard to install!

Plenty of other distros out there for those that need more bling.

Steve
 
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:58 PM   #27
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Kate Beckinsale on the Desktop.......
Hmm... yeah, that'd be nice, not necessary but certainly nice.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 03:02 AM   #28
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:35 AM   #29
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Sometimes people here stumble over the simplest things and I wonder how they even managed to install Slackware in the first place.
Long time ago, when I first met Linux, it was Suse and had serious trouble installing it with the so called YAST. After a week or two, I came across Slackware and the install was a breeze. I still think Slack is installed very easily. The only thing that frightens newcomers is partitioning. Hence, adding an automated partitioning tool (nothing fancy, just / + swap) will make Slackware more popular.
 
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:08 AM   #30
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I never understood what is so scary about cfdisk or cgdisk. The truly frightening thing IMHO is exactly an automated partitioner. Something that directly wipes out my hard disk? No thanks.
 
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