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05-12-2014, 02:03 PM
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#16
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Northeastern Michigan, where Carhartt is a Designer Label
Distribution: Slackware 32- & 64-bit Stable
Posts: 3,541
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Click-`n'-drool? Bah, humbug. Got all the tools anybody needs to do what needs doing.
No branding, close as possible to upstream developers' intent, what else can you ask for.
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1 members found this post helpful.
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05-12-2014, 03:52 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2005
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
Posts: 3,482
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I'd love to see LibreOffice become a standard.
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Would be nice, although at several hours to compile, I understand why LO is not a standard package. Would be nice if a tgz package was supported directly through the LO channel, like debs and rpms. For now the SBo or Eric's packages will have to do.
Hmm. The last announcement was more than a year ago. The package is perfect or development has ceased?
Also the tool is Qt. Now that Cinnamon and Mate are becoming popular among Slackers, a GTK wrapper to slackpkg would be nice.
GUI tools are always a contentious topic in this forum. I don't recall anybody who has asked for such tools demand that the GUI versions be standard. I think most such requests have been in the context of wrappers or front-ends to existing command line tools. /extra is a good place for such additions. That seems a reasonable compromise for both sides of the never-ending debate. Command line users don't change anything while GUI front-ends encourage the technically challenged to use Slackware.
All of the Debian derivatives and Debian have GUI package managers and all of them are wrappers or front-ends to apt. Nothing stops advanced users from opening a terminal and using apt but the GUI front-ends remain available to those who want them.
A challenge is who jumps forward to maintain any such Slackware GUI front-end?
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05-12-2014, 04:23 PM
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#18
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Registered: Apr 2012
Location: California
Posts: 422
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The cloud and desktop advertisements?
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05-12-2014, 04:41 PM
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#19
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Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Germany
Distribution: Slackware64 -current + Multilib
Posts: 411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _gin
xine-1.2.xx instead of xine-lib-1.1.21
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Oh, come on. Can't you just change the version number in the SlackBuild and see if it's compiling?
Sometimes people here stumble over the simplest things and I wonder how they even managed to install Slackware in the first place.
No offence, but if you're using Slackware you should know how to build your own packages.
BTW, I'm fine with Slackware. But gstreamer could really see an official update soon.
Last edited by schmatzler; 05-12-2014 at 04:43 PM.
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05-12-2014, 05:02 PM
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#20
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MLED Founder
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Montpezat (South France)
Distribution: CentOS, OpenSUSE
Posts: 3,453
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Originally Posted by touch21st
a good package manager, and a GUI one would be more popular. The business users should want to be well supported, but a few libs and softwares can't be found from the repos
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Pkgtools is perfect. I wouldn't want any /etc/rc.d/rc.crap-get automagically installing whole kitchen sinks, less so in GUI mode.
Room for improvement ? OK, I'd say please package and include mozilla-firefox-l10n-$LANG and mozilla-thunderbird-l10n-$LANG in the official release. All the other missing packages I can take care of, but these two are moving targets, a real PITA to build and keep in sync.
My two cents.
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3 members found this post helpful.
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05-12-2014, 05:15 PM
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#21
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Member
Registered: May 2008
Location: Republic of Texas
Posts: 393
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I can just join the chorus! If I want a one-click for everything, I wouldn't be using slackware!
Currently, absolutely _all_ my computers are running slackware (though I like to check out a new shiny toy every now and then - as a true distro-hoe - but then by multi-booting). I would _never_ remove slackware from any computer!
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1 members found this post helpful.
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05-12-2014, 05:19 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Oslo, Norway
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 2,557
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Originally Posted by kikinovak
OK, I'd say please package and include mozilla-firefox-l10n-$LANG and mozilla-thunderbird-l10n-$LANG in the official release. All the other missing packages I can take care of, but these two are moving targets, a real PITA to build and keep in sync.
My two cents.
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Only if you build them. Just repackage the localised binaries.
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05-12-2014, 05:27 PM
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#23
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: London
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 5,836
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Originally Posted by touch21st
a good package manager, and a GUI one would be more popular.
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Along with a few other distros, Slackware can't be called 'just another distro'. Although it serves well as a universal distro, it particularly meets the needs of certain kind of users who value stability and simplicity, who do not care much for gui tools and are not afraid of (and enjoy) configure/manage the system using cli tools. What you're suggesting is making Slackware like 'yet another distro'. I do not understand why you would want to do it. If you like the way eg. OpenSuse handles things, use OpenSuse. If you like the wealth of applications of Debian, use Debian. I don't understand who you would want to try to turn Slackware into another distro. It would lose most of what it offers or stands for now.
The beauty of the Linux world is that there's choice. A lot of distros are unique and let us keep it that way, I think.
Edit: by the way, what is wrong with a package manager in Slackware?
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6 members found this post helpful.
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05-12-2014, 07:09 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Kentucky
Distribution: Slackware64-current
Posts: 1,857
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Kate Beckinsale on the Desktop.......
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6 members found this post helpful.
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05-12-2014, 08:22 PM
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#25
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Registered: Aug 2012
Distribution: Oracle Linux
Posts: 106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schmatzler
Oh, come on. Can't you just change the version number in the SlackBuild and see if it's compiling?
Sometimes people here stumble over the simplest things and I wonder how they even managed to install Slackware in the first place.
No offence, but if you're using Slackware you should know how to build your own packages.
BTW, I'm fine with Slackware. But gstreamer could really see an official update soon.
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If I request for an upgrade, that doesn't mean I can't perform that one myself!
It does not hurt to ask...you did the same with gstreamer after all.
To my knowledge, xfce-mixer does not link with gstreamer-1.x (not yet...maybe in xfce 4.12..?); if you have some talent in programming, you may help the xfce team and make from gstreamer-1.X an opportunity for upgrade.
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1 members found this post helpful.
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05-12-2014, 08:51 PM
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#26
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Member
Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Brisbane Australia
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 65
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Running Slackware on a bunch of machines in 3 locations - for about 10 years now.
I'm happy to leave it to Pat and the crew to decide what they put in. IMO They have done a pretty good job so far. As a technical/scientific user I find Slackware already has most of what I need, and it is logical enough that I can easily add extra stuff and fully understand what is going on with my systems.
Maybe I'd support the suggestion for Libreoffice to be standard - but really it's not that hard to install!
Plenty of other distros out there for those that need more bling.
Steve
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05-12-2014, 09:58 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Northeastern Michigan, where Carhartt is a Designer Label
Distribution: Slackware 32- & 64-bit Stable
Posts: 3,541
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlangdn
Kate Beckinsale on the Desktop.......
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Hmm... yeah, that'd be nice, not necessary but certainly nice.
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05-13-2014, 03:02 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,385
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We have no future
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05-13-2014, 03:35 AM
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#29
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Member
Registered: Nov 2013
Location: Antalya
Distribution: Slackware64 current
Posts: 119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schmatzler
Sometimes people here stumble over the simplest things and I wonder how they even managed to install Slackware in the first place.
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Long time ago, when I first met Linux, it was Suse and had serious trouble installing it with the so called YAST. After a week or two, I came across Slackware and the install was a breeze. I still think Slack is installed very easily. The only thing that frightens newcomers is partitioning. Hence, adding an automated partitioning tool (nothing fancy, just / + swap) will make Slackware more popular.
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05-13-2014, 04:08 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Outer Shpongolia
Distribution: Slackware, CRUX
Posts: 1,495
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I never understood what is so scary about cfdisk or cgdisk. The truly frightening thing IMHO is exactly an automated partitioner. Something that directly wipes out my hard disk? No thanks.
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