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Old 08-23-2009, 09:28 AM   #1
Bller
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Hard to say goodbie


I don`t know guys, it comes to me that i`m not that ready to cope with slack, i`m more familiarised with debian based distro`s. It`s a hard bet for me trying to wrestle with the goliat that is Slack. Don`t get me wrong, i`m willing to learn, i read a few documents about slack, but still the practical thing still won`t get to me as it did with the debian distro`s.

It`s been like a few days in wich i messed up 3 times, i`m getting scared to try anything now, just because it`s not that easy to make myself comfortable with slack`s commands.
In 3 days it`s been on my mind to leave the old slack for now and try a newer more "clickable" distro. But something keeps me so close to slack that i can`t explain, i never been so happy and proud of my computer in my life, and all this is because slackware exists. Everything is just superb. I don`t know why but i don`t wanna` leave slack, i want to learn on it, i wanna use it forever i just don`t think i`m able to cope with it. I don`t know why "apt-get" got to me more easly than installpkg.

I don`t want to remove my slack, and i won`t, but could someone help me a bit understand the basic slackware commands better? Like a litle tutorial of slackware`s most used commands and what they do.

I`ll really apreciate this guys.
Thanks for all your support you gave me till now.

Last edited by Bller; 08-23-2009 at 09:29 AM.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 09:36 AM   #2
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Read the slackbook: it can be downloaded from slackware.com.
Also browse the slackwiki tutorials:
http://slackwiki.org/Category:Tutorials

Also, search and ask in this forum-it is an indispensable source of help and knowledge.

Keep on slacking!
 
Old 08-23-2009, 09:42 AM   #3
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Messed up only 3 times?? Not bad!!

Within 2 weeks of first trying Linux 3 years ago, I tried Ubuntu, Gentoo, OpenLX Edge, Absolute, and perhaps another one or two. Then I tried Slackware 11, and I was set on Slackware.

I was determined to figure it out, because I felt really at home with it, despite not knowing a thing about it.

Within the next couple months, I reinstalled it at least half a dozen times IIRC, because I screwed it up somehow, and didn't how to fix whatever I'd done to it

Take your time, don't worry about screwing it up -- that's how you learn. Learn from your mistakes.

And see Tramni's post above -- keep on Slacking!

Sasha
 
Old 08-23-2009, 09:44 AM   #4
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http://www.slackbook.org/ comes to my mind first. Note that it might be partly outdated right now, but most of the stuff should still be valid. AFAIR Alan Hicks is about to rewrite the book for Slackware 13.0.

The basic commands ... they are the same as on your Debian Box Speaking of apt-get, I think it would be worth the effort to try some SlackBuilds from www.slackbuilds.org to see how it works (there is a HOWTO on the site) and then sbopkg (which is a tool for the slackbuilds.org) and Gilbert's src2pkg as another approach to compile and package software you might need.

Once my box is set up I don't have much need for administrative tasks besides compiling an application from time to time (desktop machine, only one user). I guess if you could specify where you got problems with your Slackware install or setup/maintainance you will get more specific help too


BTW, if you enjoyed your Debian Box and are interested in Slackware, I cannot really imagine you would get happy with a - how you named it - "more clickable distro". But that's just my two cents ...
 
Old 08-23-2009, 09:46 AM   #5
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I always buy or get free a oldr pc, like 2003-up and use it/them as testbeds
that way no issues or worry about hurting anything

I bougt a emachines junker for $20 and it's even got a nvidia geforce mx4000 in it

I use it and abuse it daily

thats my advice
buy a cheapo
burn it down
 
Old 08-23-2009, 09:58 AM   #6
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There's loads of good stuff available for Slackware. Have a look at the SlackBook (already linked) and Slackware Linux Basics from Daniël de Kok. Dugan Chen's Homepage is a good reference and has useful links to other stuff.
Then there's the classic Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition by Paul Sheer which is an essential Linux reference. Then there's onebuck's essential Slackware®- Links which has links to everything !
 
Old 08-23-2009, 09:59 AM   #7
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Smile

I've used Linux/Unix for seven years now. I started with Caldera openLinux 2.3 and Red Hat. I started learning Slackware with version 10 and in the beginning I disliked it a lot because I didn't know what I was doing.
As the other posters mentioned reading the slackbook is a great place to start. Also, learning how to navigate on the command line is a useful skill. This tutorial has some value:

http://linuxcommand.org/

Yes. You will always feel pride when you set-up your Slackware box because you are the one who does it! There are no shiny GUIs to guide you and hold your hand.
This forum is excellent. Stick with it, man. Keep on Slacking.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:07 AM   #8
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Bller, could be that the next thread of interest for you is this on:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ckware-741128/
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:12 AM   #9
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Bller, could be that the next thread of interest for you is this on:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ckware-741128/
Yeah i read that allready, and something simillar is happening to me right now.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:15 AM   #10
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Don't give up now, Bllr. You're obviously a Slacker at heart. Stick at it. A few setbacks? A few challenges? That's what makes life interesting, stops us stagnating.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:29 AM   #11
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Hi together,

I did also try some other distributions, but always came back to Slackware. Back in 1988 when I began using computers there was Unix but no Linux. In 1994 I purchased my first computer with dos and windows, but I wanted to learn C++. Since there was no free C/C++ Compiler for dos/windows available I began to use Linux. Back in those days the little german firm suse distributed copies of Slackware on floppy-discs. I purchased such an edition (Kernel 1.0 in March 1994 when I remember correct, about 56 discs) and installed Slackware. The installation went the same way as today. So I learned C++ and a lot of perl but since 1997 for about 8 years I had not so much the occasion to use computers. Then, when I purchased a computer in 2006, I tried suse but without success. After some weeks of bothering with suse I got a Slackware-10.2 DVD, the installation went the same way as 12 years ago and after some days I had everything working. I've tried Gentoo and Kubuntu and some others but always came back to Slackware.

Markus
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:35 AM   #12
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I don`t know what to say, I just woke up one morning, buyed a blank DVD, burned the Slackware 12.2 DVD iso to it, and reboted my PC, from there on i didn`t look back. I just went on deleting all my partitions, eaven my -as someone in the forum says- "winblows" partition ( wich was full of music and e-books ) and the ubuntu partition, and carried on installing Slackware. I have always wanted to install slack, but everytime i tried, the setup graphical layout scared me and made me turn back. It was like nothing i ever seen before, and didn`t consider myself worthy of doing it. I don`t know what came to me when i saw myself installing slack all of the sudden. But i`m sure not disapointed. With my first login came my first problems. The resolution wasn`t the one i wanted,( still isn`t ) my mouse scroll doesent work, At least the internet sound a video work fine. But i`m bound to find something to work this out. I just need time and support from you guys.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:39 AM   #13
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I usually find running xorgsetup, as root at runlevel 3, sorts out resolution, mouse, and all that stuff.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:39 AM   #14
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my mouse scroll doesent work,
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf uncomment "protocol = auto" in the mouse-section.

Markus
 
Old 08-23-2009, 10:44 AM   #15
Bller
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Hi together,

I did also try some other distributions, but always came back to Slackware. Back in 1988 when I began using computers there was Unix but no Linux. In 1994 I purchased my first computer with dos and windows, but I wanted to learn C++. Since there was no free C/C++ Compiler for dos/windows available I began to use Linux. Back in those days the little german firm suse distributed copies of Slackware on floppy-discs. I purchased such an edition (Kernel 1.0 in March 1994 when I remember correct, about 56 discs) and installed Slackware. The installation went the same way as today. So I learned C++ and a lot of perl but since 1997 for about 8 years I had not so much the occasion to use computers. Then, when I purchased a computer in 2006, I tried suse but without success. After some weeks of bothering with suse I got a Slackware-10.2 DVD, the installation went the same way as 12 years ago and after some days I had everything working. I've tried Gentoo and Kubuntu and some others but always came back to Slackware.

Markus
I`m only 18 years old, i use PC`s for like 12 years now, i started out with win 95, and ended out with XP. Recently i was fed up with all the crashes and viruses that kept making my days like hell. So i sed why not make a change? So i tried out Ubuntu on wich i settled for about 2 month. Then i noticed i won`t learn nothing from it, because of all those add/remove, software manager and getdev.org easy installers, that waren`t as different of windows at all. So then i was eager to learn out some good Linux the relativly "hard way". So i thought Slack was the thing to learn on. As all of you say, all those books will help, time and learning will help. So what can i say, You guys made up my mind, and showed me that i don`t have to give something up if it isn`t working the way you imagined. Thanks everyone !
 
  


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