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View Poll Results: Do you do a Full or a Customized Slackware installation?
I usually do a full install, and I voted as such, then tear out a few things (koffice, I'm looking at you). But after reading through this thread I can see a few more things on the chopping block (e, kdei & y now I'm looking at you too!).
Custom install, removing Emacs, most KDE packages, Xfce, Seamonkey and HAL.
That won't be possible with 13.0 cause the xorg-server relies on HAL.
Unless you want to disable input-hotplugging and/or rebuild the server.
Hopefully 13.1 will be HALless
That won't be possible with 13.0 cause the xorg-server relies on HAL.
Unless you wont to disable input-hotplugging and/or rebuild the server.
Hopefully 13.1 will be HALless
Well, I have 12.2 and both my laptop and desktop at the moment, and I don't have any reason to upgrade.
I think even the current xorg is built with HAL support, though its probably not a mandatory dependency, just a "perk".
IMHO, HAL is a resource wasting daemon (not to mention diminished battery life in the case of laptops).
I initially do a mostly full install (maybe minus KDEI) and once it's all running, I go through pkgtool and remove the most obvious things I will never use.
I do pretty extreme minimal installs because most of the apps I use daily are not part of Slackware. A typical installation for me starts out at 250-300MB(including X & Co.) before adding selected development packages.
For someone who wants to know what makes an install tick, I recommend trying to create an installation that boots error-free using only about 50MB. If you learn that, you should never have trouble creating botched installations.
The current Xorg does indeed depend on HAL, and will not start without HAL installed.
I found this the other day when I accidentally upgraded HAL with Linuxdoc-tools.
Error: libhal not found
Sasha
Looks like I will be sticking to 12.2 for the foreseeable future
Probably roll my own X if I need to upgrade.
EDIT:
It might be interesting to see if X still works when HAL is installed, but the daemon isn't running...
At least that way the xorg server gets whatever library routines it needs and the daemon can stay off instead of relentlessly poling the hardware.
Looks like I will be sticking to 12.2 for the foreseeable future
Probably roll my own X if I need to upgrade.
EDIT:
It might be interesting to see if X still works when HAL is installed, but the daemon isn't running...
At least that way the xorg server gets whatever library routines it needs and the daemon can stay off instead of relentlessly poling the hardware.
Yes, X works fine without HAL running. HOWEVER: In my case, I have options in my xorg.xonf to tell HAL to ignore my input devices. I have not tested WITHOUT these options in there, because then my mouse & kbd don't work, and as yet, I'm un-inclined to go about learning the cryptic HAL configuration file format to change anything.
I just use the xorg.conf options, and/or kill HALd
I used to do custom installs prior to version 10.2 to save space and to learn dependencies. So I went through every package's checkbox. Always compiled a custom kernel.
Nowadays its nearly always full install. And then it depends on time and purpose of the install. Short of time or space, I exclude kdei, emacs, tex, seamonkey, koffice and any big package file I see on DVD that doesn't fit my needs. If it's production and have a few spare minutes, I choose Full list. There's no need to bother with custom kernel compilation anymore.
Except kernel, I've never installed source. Only packages that were required at the time.
I usually rip apart the poor slackware dvd...
emacs, kdei, and a mass of other things are blown up on sight... on each install. i use tags but also take a look for checking if I dont need something in that particular installation.
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