Indeed! +1

Choose your software.

Try a minimal template.
Use removepkg.

Yep. If you leave KDE out, you end up with a relatively lean & mean system which is still as "featureful" as we've come to expect. But, for me, it's the little things that make me want keep KDE. Silly things like the on-screen ruler, notes, etc., which make the whole thing that little bit more practical.
NONE!

OK so the OP has even said this was a rant and he misused the word bloated... he brings up an interesting point. Not, in my view, because of the amount of disk space taken up by a full install, but rather by the sheer amount of space taken up in the KDE menus.

Oh well. It's not like Slackware forces a full install (though it does encourage it). What can you really say, though, in response to a criticism like that other than to say that if you don't want so many packages installed, don't install so many packages!

...this post is about as redundant as the OP.

Maybe we could find a few packages to trim, but finding which packages to trim could be hard to do as many are tied in as dependencies to other system components.

The only one I can think off the top of my head is "Dragon Player and/or KMPlayer" maybe. We have MPlayer as it is.

Here's your trimmed KDE:

http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/M...es/kde/tagfile

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I have left out the kde/ and kdei/ packages in my installation. The cumulative size of the packages in those directories is 977M which would probably be about double that size when installed.

I installed Slackware 64 for a relative recently. I ended up taking it off and replacing it with Debian stable (much to my annoyance) because of some of the crap they need installed and because they needed the system fully localised in another language.

Before I hosed it, Slackware occupied ~ 7GB of the 250GB HDD I installed on. They will use KDE so it's staying on, even if they didn't I don't see the point in removing it unless really pushed for space.

I don't think the original post referred to installed size however? I took it as more of an observation in terms of the workload involved maintaining all that, so I find some of the replies confusing.

My take on this is that if Pat decides stuff will go (a la gnome) then it's likely that it will.

Just out of curiosity: what crap and what language? My daily job consists in installing Slackware for Joe-Sixpack-type users, so maybe I can help you out with that.

It was spanish and the crap is google chrome and skype. There are maintained packages and repos for these under Debian so they will get updates, etc. I use neither myself so couldn't care less.

I had this vision of people on the phone in a few months from now trying to upgrade stuff and it all going horribly wrong, hence why I did not bother pursuing it and working on the localisation stuff (beyond changing KDE's user locale to spanish). We're talking about people who barely know the right mouse click from the right mouse click and who will probably hose the thing and pay to get pirate windows installed locally at the first sign of trouble - so not worth the effort. But thanks anyway.

I guess I'm one of those people also. I can't tell the difference.

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Another one here.

During an installation of Windows 7 in French I saw something like "32 minutes gauche". It took me a few seconds to realize that was the translation of "32 minutes left"

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*rotfl*

32 minutes restantes (Thanks, google translate )