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09-11-2014, 09:38 AM
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Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
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Originally Posted by brianL
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Yes. I wouldn't blame the translator, though, but rather the person that probably gave the word to translate out of context.
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09-11-2014, 09:53 AM
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#62
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Slackware64 15; SlackwareARM-current (aarch64); Debian 12
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Blame the English language, there are quite a few ambiguous words.
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09-11-2014, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2011
Location: Hiding somewhere on planet Earth.
Distribution: No distribution. OpenBSD operating system
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No language is to blame. Every language is a collection of metaphors that relies on context to provide meaning, and often the meanings are very different than what the individual words and phrases mean at face value. And to complicate matters, as just mentioned above, many words have more than one meaning. No electronic translator can be trusted to be accurate. They are simply tools that can be occasionally useful.
Last edited by Randicus Draco Albus; 09-11-2014 at 10:05 AM.
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09-11-2014, 10:12 AM
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#64
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Registered: Nov 2013
Location: Brazil
Distribution: Slackware
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The direction this thread took is incredible lol
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09-11-2014, 10:14 AM
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#65
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Slackware64 15; SlackwareARM-current (aarch64); Debian 12
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Yeah, threads do drift about sometimes.
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09-11-2014, 12:00 PM
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#66
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2005
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 1,135
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Don't get me wrong but this thread is kinda "bloated"
cheers,
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7 members found this post helpful.
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09-11-2014, 04:45 PM
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#67
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Guildford, England
Distribution: Slackware64 -current running i3
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I run TWM as my main desktop having done a full install. KDE, KDEi and all the rest are there but I don't notice them because I don't use them. I've stripped down installs before now but I have to say I can't see that it was ever of any benefit to me. I certainly haven't perceived any lessening of performance by installing the full set.
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09-11-2014, 05:55 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2008
Distribution: Arch/Manjaro, might try Slackware again
Posts: 1,856
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Maybe the Windows translator was a time traveler, (picturing time along the abscissa) or traveling to Neverland. Ok, he or she was probably just using a program for word by word translation. Or it was a program.
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09-11-2014, 06:14 PM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 523
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I think the main complaint can probably be traced to Slackware's package management tools not having dependency checking built in, so it can be hard for newcomers to scale down the system without breaking things, so a full install is generally the easiest way to work with Slackware. But the only problem there is, if we made Slackware into yet another Debian, it would lose the unique status it has as being one of the only distros out there that doesn't have dependency checking and is proud of it.
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1 members found this post helpful.
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09-11-2014, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2011
Location: Hiding somewhere on planet Earth.
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Originally Posted by Poprocks
But the only problem there is, if we made Slackware into yet another Debian, it would lose the unique status it has
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True. Like it or not, Slackware is different than other distros. Love it or loathe it, Arch is unique. Such is the essence of choice. Slackware, Debian and CentOS are all good systems, but what would be the point of them being the same? Having many identical options is not a real choice.
Last edited by Randicus Draco Albus; 09-11-2014 at 06:50 PM.
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5 members found this post helpful.
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09-11-2014, 07:41 PM
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Moderator
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Central Florida 20 minutes from Disney World
Distribution: SlackwareŽ
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Member Response
Hi,
I do hope that PV continues to maintain a unique Gnu/Linux. Personally, I feel that Slackware fits my immediate and future needs. We do not need a hold your hand distribution, if you do then there are the *buntus out there. As to Slackware being bloated, no way. Slackware fits my needs as is and if I need to minimize then I do know how to trim. But why waste time trimming. You can always get MLED that should meet most users needs for a Desktop using Slackware Modified. If you want a full Slackware install then that too is doable.
Slackware is a fit & trimmed Gnu/Linux. Try that with a rolling release!
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
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1 members found this post helpful.
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09-11-2014, 10:14 PM
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#72
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Senior Member
Registered: Nov 2013
Location: Brazil
Distribution: Slackware
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poprocks
I think the main complaint can probably be traced to Slackware's package management tools not having dependency checking built in, so it can be hard for newcomers to scale down the system without breaking things, so a full install is generally the easiest way to work with Slackware. But the only problem there is, if we made Slackware into yet another Debian, it would lose the unique status it has as being one of the only distros out there that doesn't have dependency checking and is proud of it.
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No, hell no. No dependency management is one of the best "features".
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09-12-2014, 12:02 AM
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#73
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MLED Founder
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Montpezat (South France)
Distribution: CentOS, OpenSUSE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onebuck
Hi,
I do hope that PV continues to maintain a unique Gnu/Linux. Personally, I feel that Slackware fits my immediate and future needs. We do not need a hold your hand distribution, if you do then there are the *buntus out there. As to Slackware being bloated, no way. Slackware fits my needs as is and if I need to minimize then I do know how to trim. But why waste time trimming. You can always get MLED that should meet most users needs for a Desktop using Slackware Modified. If you want a full Slackware install then that too is doable.
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Thank you very much for the heads-up, onebuck. The information on that page is obsolete. I haven't found the time to update it yet. I'll keep you posted.
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09-12-2014, 12:17 AM
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#74
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Senior Member
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Distribution: Slackware64 15.0, Slackwarearm 14.2
Posts: 1,158
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Should Slackware change its policy to "one software for each task", then the number of people who will have to install tons of extra packages will by far outnumber those who would feel a need to trim down their systems otherwise.
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1 members found this post helpful.
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09-12-2014, 03:15 AM
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#75
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LQ 5k Club
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Oldham, Lancs, England
Distribution: Slackware64 15; SlackwareARM-current (aarch64); Debian 12
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There's always Salix for those who need a ready-made, trimmed-down, one-tool-per-task, setup.
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