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I'm a simpleton ;-). First thing I do is wipe Firefarce/Thunderchicken,Virtual nightmares and Libre Office on all distros. Then I install xpdf,Abiword,Galc and generally chromium, followed by Brave BETA for sync.I also only run XFCE or MATE desktop to stay in the nineties.I only run rolling distros like Arch, Sparky6, and bullsyse/sid/mate so there are no update surprises with those normally included apps
I keep a full on copy of LMDE4 Cimunininmum on a partition for the times I need all that office kinda stuff...2x a year or so.That one wears a bunch of audio-video and office stuff for that wife to use.She says her "Windows" are made by Linux and never break 8-|~
Then, why the heck you post in a Slackware thread?
Oh, well...
Another one with the brains fried by this hot weather!
Last edited by ZhaoLin1457; 08-09-2020 at 09:18 AM.
We are going now into circle. In some sense I was lucky. It is better to happen in this early stage than later on. Profiles is a feature we don't know purpose nor benefits. So there is no rationale here.
My screenshot was a bit lacking. That is my normal profile setup, my main profile and a clean profile. I can also add a new profile to test from. On one work related laptop I use, I have two main profiles, one for work, one for me. I have used profiles for years, I find them quit useful for different Firefox setups. With the "--new-instance" option I have more than one profile active at one time.
My screenshot was a bit lacking. That is my normal profile setup, my main profile and a clean profile. I can also add a new profile to test from.
In my office clerks are using Msoft Word. Which means they know how to start it, how to open template, how to fill in template and how to print document. And they are quite satisfied with this. People start browser and surface internet. Facebook etc. They are not interested in browser. They don't care about addons, extensions etc. If they need something they ask others to do this. After update those people would be greatly surprised because bookmarks, favourite pages all this disappear. So they ask someone for help. And it is now time to explain what are profiles, how they work. How to use them. I know many people and I know that after a try they give up. They don't need to learn such thing. So all this will end with some other browser. Focus is on internet not on browser.
In my office clerks are using Msoft Word. Which means they know how to start it, how to open template, how to fill in template and how to print document. And they are quite satisfied with this. People start browser and surface internet. Facebook etc. They are not interested in browser. They don't care about addons, extensions etc. If they need something they ask others to do this. After update those people would be greatly surprised because bookmarks, favourite pages all this disappear. So they ask someone for help. And it is now time to explain what are profiles, how they work. How to use them. I know many people and I know that after a try they give up. They don't need to learn such thing. So all this will end with some other browser. Focus is on internet not on browser.
So, you insist to continue with this bullshit?
First of all, Slackware is not an Enterprise distribution, then your "office clerks" aren't supposed to use it at work.
Secondly, there is no official supported Wine package in Slackware, then IF you already do this to run Microsoft Office, you already use unsupported software in a security critical environment. Your sysadmin wasn't fired yet?
Thirdly, right now there are only TWO major software as browsers: the Mozilla things and the Google Chromium with its derivative, starting with Chrome.
While I am really surprised that the Polish clerks have so much time at work and specially that they have permission to use Facebook at work (at least in Russia a clerk caught using a social network at work, will be fired without further warnings), you need either Mozilla or Google things to enjoy the Facebook today. Anyway, if your "office clerks" are unable or they are too stupid to adapt to the new software, I bet that for them is the right time for retirement.
Fourthly, the Firefox is the only major modern browser included in Slackware and officially supported (unless we count also Mozilla Seamonkey) and removing it will leave its users to install whatever unsupported software, which will be pretty huge lack for Slackware. Will not happen.
Finally, please stop this bullshit! Will never happen the Firefox removal because of a Drama Queen unable to properly use a well documented web browser: YOU!
Last edited by LuckyCyborg; 08-10-2020 at 06:19 AM.
While I am really surprised that the Polish clerks have so much time at work and specially that they have permission to use Facebook at work (at least in Russia a clerk caught using a social network at work, will be fired without further warnings),
So you now see that Poland is not Russia.
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you need either Mozilla or Google things to enjoy the Facebook today.
By default I was using m.facebook.com interface due to JavaScript block. For example with JS blocked on m.facebook.com there is no commercials.
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Anyway, if your "office clerks" are unable or they are too stupid to adapt to the new software, I bet that for them is the right time for retirement.
They have other job to do than learning new software.
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the Firefox is the only major modern browser included in Slackware and officially supported (unless we count also Mozilla Seamonkey) and removing it will leave its users to install whatever unsupported software, which will be pretty huge lack for Slackware. Will not happen.
I am only asking for web browser for common people.
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Finally, please stop this bullshit!
Just stop reading this thread. If it makes you so uncomfortable.
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Will never happen the Firefox removal because of a Drama Queen unable to properly use a well documented web browser: YOU!
About removal much depends on firefox developers. What else they plan to add to it.
The OP has his/her opinion that FF doe not meet need so the continued discussion is moot. So as is said;
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“What we wish, we readily believe, and what we ourselves think, we imagine others think also.” - Julius Caesar
Since FF is a popular browser by most of us then we waste our time to convince otherwise to the OP.
Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy FF with Slackware!
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I found when mozilla created the default/default-release profile change it was really confusing. Especially when updating FF sometimes the wrong profile from what was expected was used. at least on windows this means that for new installs, I intitially run firefox -P and manually create a user profile. That way it isn't a "default" one which may or may not change on an update and if i came across that machine some years later at least the used profile was obvious.
It is probably a good idea to do the same for linux, slackware in this case.
yes it is a bit annoying if you get "bitten" with a disappeared profile. In a similar thing, the latest thunderbird does not import existing mail properly and some plugins such as seive won't yet work with the newest version, so that is a showstopper for people as well. However complaining would be better targetted at the developers, rather than here. people have offered information which would help recover saved passwords that you were concerned about. If you don't feel you should fix it yourself, you could always pay someone else to fix it for you.
If you are providing support for others in your office, then creating new profiles for each person and transfering data from the "default" ones would hopefully remove problems for them in the future. For "users" that don't want to do anything but use, then the initial setup is usually done by the IT person, and that is who they go to when they have any difficulties.
If they were using windows 10, microsoft keeps tring to change the default browser almost every month; good luck transfering saved paswords from ie or edge. While profiles might be a nuisance on occasion, at least it is documented enough to manually recover from, as ZhaoLin1457 posting for you in 53
It would be beneficial to replace Firefox with Ungoogled Chromium.
This way the bad practices of mozilla (like using backdoorable language Rust) can by bypassed and the spying of Google can as well.
It would be beneficial to replace Firefox with Ungoogled Chromium.
I disagree. Firefox is one of the main applications that one expects to see in a Linux distro. In my opinion it should stay in Slackware. There are trusted places where one can get Chromium.
It would be beneficial to replace Firefox with Ungoogled Chromium.
This way the bad practices of mozilla (like using backdoorable language Rust) can by bypassed and the spying of Google can as well.
Unless you demonstrate in a practical way that the Rust binaries shipped by Mozilla contains backdoors for real, all your anti-Mozilla crusade is just FUD and paranoia.
Last edited by LuckyCyborg; 08-10-2020 at 12:17 PM.
It would be beneficial to replace Firefox with Ungoogled Chromium.
This way the bad practices of mozilla (like using backdoorable language Rust) can by bypassed and the spying of Google can as well.
Ridiculous.
Last edited by drgibbon; 08-10-2020 at 12:19 PM.
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