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What's the lazy way of grabbing brave? They do debs & rpms for all & sundry, all locked behind gpg keys. They have a snap release, but warn it's not up to scratch. The 'any other linux' type release is noticably absent. It looks like they can't compile their own code, or aren't bothered.
The "Unsupported Builds" don't make it easy either, and offer less. I'd like a painless way to download a .deb, because there can be a lot of patching with rpms.
Distribution: Slackware/Salix while testing others
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^ Same, SlackBuild works fine. Note, you may need to install seahorse and seahorse-plugins as it complains of needing a keyring for some people. It did for me and installing both then a reboot solved it. https://community.brave.com/t/launch...arning/90690/5
I confess that link moved me not to install brave. Let's face it, all browsers are somewhat suspect. The choice seems to be between (Google-owned) Chrome, and (Google owned) Firefox, or their derivatives. But Brave doesn't even get the 'honest crook' rating from me. I installed 3
Mullvad
Vivaldi
Basilisk
Mullvad turned me off. It came root owned with 0700 in a .tar.xz, and everything had those settings. It had this complicated desktop file. You were supposed to run it once, and it would reorient itself and work thereafter. But I had to change permissions on the directory it was in. A luser had no permission to run it. So I used 'sudo' and it threw me out because I was running as root I decided to try it again when I felt like solving Rubik's Cube. It's deleted.
Vivaldi did not get the chop, but did not impress. Basilisk seemed ok, so I might put some time into that but I need a bad review page for all these lesser known browsers. I don't want reviews that regurgitate marketing blurb, but ones that dish the dirt.
On that front, palemoon continues to progress. Palemoon is a clone that forked very early and consequently have a lot of development work to repeat. But the number of things it doesn't do gets less & less each revision. It's still running a tight ship on ads & trackers. It's my browser of choice on tricky sites.
Or chromium-ungoogled. It's probably nearly what brave promised to do, and with certain extensions, probably very much so, at least for what actually matters. Since I build chromium myself, I have some confidence in it.
I build chromium-ungoogled myself. I considered brave, and even though chromium is bad enough, brave's system is even worse to untangle. So I dropped brave from consideration. Vivaldi, Opera and others in that cluster do not give me any confidence of independence or direction. There are no true forks of chromium, and they all buy into alot of what google does.
I am not a fan of chromium. But it is quite clear that firefox is broken on certain websites enough that I have to have another option. Firefox has a myriad of its own problems, and as shipped in current Slackware, it is getting quite concerning. There needs to be a credible fork of firefox I think. Seamonkey still is close to being relevant, but is lacking resources. I still do not trust the developer ecosystem of Palemoon and derivatives, but that could change.
Last edited by the3dfxdude; 07-24-2023 at 06:18 PM.
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Meh, I don't put much credence in a post like that. Plus it looks like it "may involve Brave Search", so don't use Brave search, it has other options for search engines.
At this point all of the browsers seem compromised in one way or another, picking the least nefarious seems the better option until the community steps up and stops selling out....wishful thinking and all....
Not browsing heavily myself, I now have installed (Alphabetically)
Basilisk
Brave
Chromium-ungoogled
Firefox
Opera
Palemoon
Vivaldi
I'll delete most of those again after trying them. I definitely prefer the FF style of interface, but they seem to underwhelm performance wise, although I like some safety features. We'll see how we go. I'm trying a couple on my trying sites with each of them.
I have Vivaldi and FF mentally as 'delete candidates.' Brave is actually ok, whatever it's doing. Vivaldi might be good for the type of guy who has 15 things going on at once. Luakit I don't like the sound of, but I might try the surf thing. All browsers seem based on FF or Chrome.
It turns out chromium-ungoogled isn't too bad, just a bit too lax with the ads and deprived of extensions.
On surf, it wants dmenu, webkit2gtk, and Unidef at least. I got as far as webkit2gtk which puked for the lack of Unidef. I decided I wasn't going to fight for a tab-less browser. The whole ethos had a very '90s feel about it. Tabs are productive. On this site, under 'My LQ' you see all your subscribed threads with new posts, and I open them in tabs. The fooling about in a tabless browser would be a hassle.
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