All Things KDE5/Plasma for Slackware Users.

chrisretusn · 06-10-2021, 10:08 PM

Never mind.

chrisretusn · 06-10-2021, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gegechris99

You certainly missed two new packages:

The second package is what will make the lock screen work again.

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Wed Jun 9 18:59:30 UTC 2021
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kde/ksystemstats-5.22.0-x86_64-1.txz: Added.
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kde/layer-shell-qt-5.22.0-x86_64-1.txz: Added.

Man do I feel stupid, I read the ChangeLog, missed those two. Normally I run 'slackpkg install-new' as GP with large number of packages, this time I didn't, it bit me. LOL

Also fixed the lock screen issue.

cwizardone · 06-12-2021, 08:15 PM

This last week's new features, improvements and bug fixes,

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This week in KDE: Plasma 5.22 arrives but I bet you’ll want 5.23 once I show you this........

https://pointieststick.com/2021/06/1...show-you-this/

Regnad Kcin · 06-13-2021, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone

I bet you’ll want 5.23 once I show you this...

One of the downsides of KDE5 has been the paucity of alternative themes. It is accentuated when one sees what some others in a parallel universe consider to be beautiful.

j12i · 06-14-2021, 03:46 AM

Hi!
Two questions (see screenshot):

Do you other Plasma 5 users also have two volume setting icons in the systray? (I believe one is KMix and one from PulseAudio.)
Is the text in the tooltips of the systray popups also unreadable for you with the Oxygen style? Only on taking the screenshot and zooming in on it, I realized that the text is not exactly the same colour as the background. (The tooltip is below the wrench icon in the popup in the screenshot.)

This is -current with Plasma 5.22.0, but at least issue #2 is there since -current adopted Plasma 5.

destey · 06-14-2021, 05:34 AM

Is there a setting somewhere to change behavior of when you click on a program shortcut icon on the task bar? It used to launch the application and keep the icon, now the icon disappears and I suppose you could say it changes over to the wider instance on the task bar that has the description. How it adds that wider instance is like it used to be but I don't like how it gets rid of the icon after you click it. I like to launch multiple konsoles and dolphins and its annoying to have the icon disappear after I open one. Have to go through the "start" menu or open up the konsole window, file->new window.

rinaldij · 06-14-2021, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by j12i

Hi!
Two questions (see screenshot):

Do you other Plasma 5 users also have two volume setting icons in the systray? (I believe one is KMix and one from PulseAudio.)
Is the text in the tooltips of the systray popups also unreadable for you with the Oxygen style? Only on taking the screenshot and zooming in on it, I realized that the text is not exactly the same colour as the background. (The tooltip is below the wrench icon in the popup in the screenshot.)

This is -current with Plasma 5.22.0, but at least issue #2 is there since -current adopted Plasma 5.

Yes, two icons. One for kmix, the other shows both sound devices.

With Oxygen I get popups with white fg on black bg.

j12i · 06-14-2021, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rinaldij

With Oxygen I get popups with white fg on black bg.

I was talking about the tooltips inside those popups.

j12i · 06-14-2021, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by destey

Is there a setting somewhere to change behavior of when you click on a program shortcut icon on the task bar? It used to launch the application and keep the icon, now the icon disappears and I suppose you could say it changes over to the wider instance on the task bar that has the description. How it adds that wider instance is like it used to be but I don't like how it gets rid of the icon after you click it. I like to launch multiple konsoles and dolphins and its annoying to have the icon disappear after I open one. Have to go through the "start" menu or open up the konsole window, file->new window.

I have the behaviour you desire. I use the "icons-only task manager" and have the pinned symbols directly inside that. See screenshot to compare settings.

destey · 06-14-2021, 09:16 AM

Thanks for the reply j12i. It looks like the behavior I'm looking for isn't possible anymore. I tried that icon only but it launches (as the name implies) into an icon. I liked how there were pinned icons then when you clicked on them it launched into a wide task w/ text descrip on the bar. The default task manager does everything I want except how the icon disappears after you click it. That change in behavior is within the last year. I have older slackware-current dvds from last year, I might just switch back if I can't figure out how to fix this.

j12i · 06-14-2021, 09:38 AM

I experimented a little, and the box I circled in green does what you want, I think. Sorry, I didn't want to go through the trouble of making Plasma english again.

destey · 06-14-2021, 10:20 AM

I translate it to say "keep the starter separate" which does sound like the right option but for some reason I don't have that option (this one in question is slackware-current from june 8th 2021)

In any case thank you for your help, I appreciate the effort. I went back to a november slackware-current dvd iso I had and everything is the look and feel I remember. Looks to be a big ui change sometime in the last 8 months.

BrunoLafleur · 06-16-2021, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by destey

I translate it to say "keep the starter separate" which does sound like the right option but for some reason I don't have that option (this one in question is slackware-current from june 8th 2021)

In any case thank you for your help, I appreciate the effort. I went back to a november slackware-current dvd iso I had and everything is the look and feel I remember. Looks to be a big ui change sometime in the last 8 months.

Yes before end of november it was KDE4 and after KDE5. Look and feel is not the same by default. You can put themes but they maybe not all supported. I don(t test them.

Jeebizz · 06-16-2021, 08:48 AM

Today's update:

Code:

Wed Jun 16 01:06:18 UTC 2021

kde/bluedevil-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/breeze-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/breeze-grub-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/breeze-gtk-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/drkonqi-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kactivitymanagerd-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kde-cli-tools-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kde-gtk-config-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kdecoration-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kdeplasma-addons-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kgamma5-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/khotkeys-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kinfocenter-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kmenuedit-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kscreen-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kscreenlocker-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/ksshaskpass-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/ksystemstats-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwallet-pam-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwayland-integration-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwayland-server-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwin-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/kwrited-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/layer-shell-qt-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/libkscreen-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/libksysguard-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/milou-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/oxygen-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-browser-integration-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-desktop-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-disks-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-firewall-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-integration-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-nm-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-pa-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-sdk-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-systemmonitor-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-vault-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-workspace-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/plasma-workspace-wallpapers-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/polkit-kde-agent-1-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/powerdevil-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/qqc2-breeze-style-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/sddm-kcm-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/systemsettings-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.
kde/xdg-desktop-portal-kde-5.22.1-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.

enorbet · 06-16-2021, 09:16 AM

I completely agree with destey. There is a world of difference between "what can be run" and "what is running" and I vastly prefer being able to return to recognition of that difference at a glance. As it is now one has to mouseover to even get a clue and it isn't always accurate. For example if I have 2 instances of an app open, one as User and one as Root, and if they are temporarily minimized, it isd no longer always possible to tell one from another without re-opening... wastes time and interrupts workflow.

I very much prefer KDE but I don't prefer some of the forced arbitrary changes they often indulge in, with no recourse. I'm betting in this case since the only gain I can imagine is space, it was instituted as a result of modern focus on phones and tablets. Unless the KDE dev team is going to employ some sort of Profile for PC vs/ Mobile, it's making me reconsider moving to a Linux-based smartphone like Pine64 or any "jailbreak" alternative. I certainly don't wish to support continued lack of interest and support for PCs. I spend orders of magnitude more time on my PC than any mobile device.