A Review of Slackware-14.2, by Jesse Smith at Distrowatch.com
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we would have a lot of good Slackware reviews if everyone who is complaining here would write his/her own review an put i public.
would also make more sense and have a more huge positive and informative impact than complaining about that one review.
(I know there is at least one laudable exception from the paranoidpenguin)
There do need to be more Slackware reviews out there
This one wouldn't be a big deal if the review didn't come from a big site like distrowatch. Its fine that he didn't like it but he crossed the line by saying he "[thinks] spending an afternoon tracking down dependencies one at a time to gain access to programs most distributions ship with by default borders on the definition of broke." That bordered on the definition of defamation and hurts Slackware's market share.
Just because he isn't a tinkerer and dislikes the philosophy of Slackware doesn't mean its broke. He could charge its not cutting edge and requires time and effort but broke is not true. It is very stable. He expects a small team to shove the latest everything and the kitchen sink in like everyone else when its not ready or it could be harmful to the systems stability (and may be hard to exorcise once introduced). It would have increased the install size which he complained about.
I've recently decided to stop referring to Slackware as Linux. I don't call the Android operating system Linux and it uses the Linux kernel while doing its own thing with java. Slackware isn't going along with the march towards an integrated Linux operating system where there is only one personality but with many names. Slackware maintains its on personality. He might not like it but its there. If integration and ease of use is the goal then why not just consolidate them all under the umbrella Linux and be done with it. Why waste resources putting out xerox copies of the same thing over and over again? When the ecosystem is heading for consolidation. If they want to eat what remains of Microsoft's lunch they'll learn how to emulate directx 11-12 like a pro with superior driver support and read and open cds/dvds like a champ. Linux strength is its diversity. The review should have celebrated choice instead of demanding conformity.
Last but not least, I sometimes wonder why someone who apparently only uses Arch Linux even bothers to be a regular on the Slackware forum.
I have exactly the same observation. Even more: you can find posts on various LQ forums where so called help is provided by the people who have never seen the operating system they are talking about...
I have exactly the same observation. Even more: you can find posts on various LQ forums where so called help is provided by the people who have never seen the operating system they are talking about...
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"The procedure I recommended works on Ubuntu. Is there any reason why you'd reject here here, other than NIH syndrome?"
(Not talking about Germany_chris. Talking about a post I saw in this forum a while ago).
we would have a lot of good Slackware reviews if everyone who is complaining here would write his/her own review an put i public.
would also make more sense and have a more huge positive and informative impact than complaining about that one review.
(I know there is at least one laudable exception from the paranoidpenguin)
That is only partly true. I am reading my favorite newspaper now. I make a lot of comments to my wife. I am a reader, so I can express my opinion. I can also do this publicly (via forums etc). As a reader, I can discuss what I am reading, even if I have no skills or talents to write my own article.
Honestly, I used to visit Distrowatch regularly. Since then and the unmentioned taboo subject, it has become less relevant because it is only promoting the cookie cutter distros. There are very few "ground-breaking" distros that I have seen there, in which I once considered Linux Mint to be one, but since its assimilation it has fallen in with the rest of them.
Recently I visit this site more often because it truly shows diversity in Linux computing.
The reviewer is not uninformed he disagrees with the way Slackware functions he's as entitled to that opinion as the folks are here that think it functions perfectly. It's PV baby and it's his way you either agree with that or you don't.
I take some offense at that, and agree that you have unfairly characterized this thread and my own posts in particular.
And that last statement is a very unfair reflection on PV! It is absolutely NOT about having to agree with PV, it is about trying to understand WHY PV and Slackers generally embrace the choices that have been made for Slackware which differentiates it from other distros, without criticizing them for not being the same as 'Buntu or {your distro here}!
Please take off your own filters and bias, and read this thread again from the beginning...
Using the automobile driver analogy once more, it is as if a person who is an otherwise good driver but who has only ever driven a family wagon with automatic transmission, decides to write a review about a semi rig with 12 gear standard transmission. Their major complaint is that it is missing a "PRNDL" selector on the column and has an old fashioned clutch pedal that gets in their way... clutches may have made sense 15-20 years ago, but not in a modern vehicle...
The ENTIRE point of my posts was that the underlying philosophies among GNU/Linux distros, Unix and other OSs has similarly diverged to the point that comparing them without acknowledging the underlying philosophical differences is an apples and oranges proposition.
I did not ever say the reviewer was lazy or stupid, and in fact went to some extra length to point that out... but you will read what you want to read - which was another point made... sigh...
There is no way to write a positive review of Slackware. Prove me wrong, write one and turn all the obvious flaws pointed by other reviewers into assets. It'll be the funniest review ever.
There is no way to write a positive review of Slackware. Prove me wrong, write one and turn all the obvious flaws pointed by other reviewers into assets. It'll be the funniest review ever.
Just out of curiosity: which Linux distribution are you currently using? (This is a real question, not a rhetorical one.)
There is no way to write a positive review of Slackware. Prove me wrong, write one and turn all the obvious flaws pointed by other reviewers into assets. It'll be the funniest review ever.
If you have a parody review in mind, then you'll need to be the one to write it.
Please people, let's not be snitty about Distrowatch and Jesse Smith. We should be grateful to Mr Smith for showing us what we can do better (except for that so-called bug). Distrowatch supported Eric's Slackware Live (and much more) financially, and Mr Smith may well have been instrumental in setting that up.
Please people, let's not be snitty about Distrowatch and Jesse Smith. We should be grateful to Mr Smith for showing us what we can do better (except for that so-called bug). Distrowatch supported Eric's Slackware Live (and much more) financially, and Mr Smith may well have been instrumental in setting that up.
This is becoming repetitive
What you wrote above makes sense, so I am saying Good Bye to this tread.
Please people, let's not be snitty about Distrowatch and Jesse Smith. We should be grateful to Mr Smith for showing us what we can do better (except for that so-called bug). Distrowatch supported Eric's Slackware Live (and much more) financially, and Mr Smith may well have been instrumental in setting that up.
This is becoming repetitive
There's also the fact that publishing a review (which I really didn't see as negative) on Distrowatch drives Slackware's Distrowatch ranking up.
You can always tell when a !@#$%^ idiot uses Slackware. When they are not smart enough to look in the extra folder this tells me they have no clue !@#$%^ they are doing in Linux. I get this everyday when working with a project that is set up for Ubuntu 14.04.
They really think the world is a apt-get script that meets the needs for them. None of them have a clue what they do.
I just KISS my way across the kernel. Grab the Vaseline and ask them simple questions they have no clue how to answer.
At least they know a little C and C++ . Have no clue why "make" works.
That tells me the this was a !@#$%^ joke of some guy. That only uses HTML to scratch his balls.
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