Hi!

Now I'm facing first real problem with my Mandrake. I just have to say I haven't diagnosed this problem much, because I don't know where to start.. I hope someone could give me a hint.

My Mandrake 10 (official) became a bit laggy some days ago. It can be noticed easily by switching desktops.. they used to change very rapidly and sometimes still do.. but about 50-60% times it just lags. It can take up to 1 second to change the desktop to another.

Another situation where this can be noticed easily is writing. Sometimes, when I write (several times when writing this message) I get double letters like when I try to type 'car' it shows up 'ccar' or 'cr'. This is VERY annoying .

The same goes for scrolling windows, menu appearing etc..

My hardware:

Intel "Rock Lake" D865PERL
Intel P4 2,8Ghz FSB800 Northwood
1GB RAM 400Mhz
Enermax 450W power
Hercules Radeon 9800Pro 128Mb
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy ES

Edit: Could it be something with ATI drivers..? I installed them few days ago. No problems in install process and 3D works also.

Edit2: Oh yeah, I'm using KDE3.2

Edit3: I'm using Viewsonic VP171B 17" LCD Display(1280x1024@75hz). According to drakconf, resolution is 1280x960, but in the displays menu it says 1280x1204.

Woow, you have a POWERFUL system, but maybe try to "see" what eats your CPU power?

try "ps axu" command
-or
try "top" command to see where your resources are gone.

Yep, that's why I want it to work properly

Ok, I have XMMS, Kontact, Opera, Drakconf, X-Chat and Konsole running and 'top' says "CPU: 50%". This must mean the current load of processor? This can't be normal? When I change desktop to another and back to the Konsole desktop the CPU is over 90%

Fenix*NBK* had the command a bit wrong. open a terminal, su to root, then type....... ps -aux (hit enter) it will give you a much more detailed view of what's running & chewing up those CPU cycles. look in the "cpu" & "mem" columns. if you know it isn't a need process, type kill (pid number) hit enter to kill the process. if you're unsure, post back with you're findings. you can copy/paste the whole screen. another place to look is Mandrake Control Center (MCC)->system->services. you may have a lot of unneccessary services running. look there & post back what services you have running so we can determine what's not needed.

otis

Ok, this is copied from Drakconf process list. 'kma' is kind of server for my networkable dvd player so that's nothing special. I have been running for about 4 months and it works nicely. There should not be any other 'custom' stuff

USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 1.2 0.0 1580 516 ? S 23:49 0:04 init [5]
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SWN 23:49 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW< 23:49 0:00 [events/0]
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW< 23:49 0:00 [kblockd/0]
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [kapmd]
root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [pdflush]
root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [pdflush]
root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [kswapd0]
root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW< 23:49 0:00 [aio/0]
root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [kseriod]
root 19 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [kjournald]
root 181 0.0 0.1 2292 1436 ? S 23:49 0:00 devfsd /dev
root 312 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [khubd]
root 911 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [kjournald]
root 922 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [kjournald]
root 923 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [kjournald]
root 1097 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:49 0:00 [knodemgrd_0]
root 2057 0.0 0.0 1652 544 ? S 23:49 0:00 /sbin/ifplugd -w -b -i eth0
root 2120 0.0 0.1 2128 996 ? S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -q -lf /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.p
root 2170 0.0 0.0 1652 544 ? S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/ifplugd -w -b -i eth1
rpc 2202 0.0 0.0 1712 580 ? S 23:50 0:00 portmap
root 2226 0.0 0.0 1640 604 ? S 23:50 0:00 syslogd -m 0 -a /var/spool/postfix/dev/log
root 2234 0.0 0.1 2580 1540 ? S 23:50 0:00 klogd -2
root 2293 0.0 0.0 1876 852 ? S 23:50 0:00 rpc.statd
xfs 3475 0.0 0.4 5560 3856 ? S 23:50 0:00 xfs -port -1 -daemon -droppriv -user xfs
root 3712 0.0 0.0 1588 536 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/apmd -p 10 -w 5 -W -P /usr/sbin/pmsuspend2
root 3774 0.0 0.0 2688 692 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/bin/mdkkdm -nodaemon
daemon 3776 0.0 0.0 1616 536 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
root 3812 11.1 4.4 53880 40136 ? SL 23:50 0:36 /etc/X11/X -deferglyphs 16 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-OQ22c8
root 3816 0.0 0.0 2168 880 ? S 23:50 0:00 xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
root 3853 0.0 0.1 3600 1696 ? S 23:50 0:00 -:0
root 3860 0.0 0.2 5616 2304 ? S 23:50 0:00 cupsd
root 4021 0.0 0.0 1756 640 ? S 23:50 0:00 rpc.rquotad
root 4032 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4033 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4034 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4040 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [lockd]
root 4041 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [rpciod]
root 4036 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4037 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4038 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4039 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4035 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 23:50 0:00 [nfsd]
root 4052 0.0 0.0 1756 656 ? S 23:50 0:00 rpc.mountd
daemon 4106 0.0 0.1 4312 1768 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/jabberd -h Intel -c /etc/jabber/jabber.xml -B
daemon 4199 0.0 0.1 4168 1628 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/sbin/jabberd -h Intel -c /etc/jabber/jabber.xml -B
root 4281 0.0 0.1 2884 1088 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master
postfix 4302 0.0 0.1 2976 1140 ? S 23:50 0:00 pickup -l -t fifo -u -c -o content_filter -o receive_override_options
postfix 4303 0.0 0.1 3008 1172 ? S 23:50 0:00 qmgr -l -t fifo -u -c
postfix 4304 0.0 0.1 4244 1516 ? S 23:50 0:00 tlsmgr -l -t fifo -u -c
root 4347 0.0 0.0 1624 624 ? S 23:50 0:00 crond
root 4378 0.0 0.6 8636 6256 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
root 4413 0.0 0.1 2612 1128 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/bin/lisa -c /etc/lisarc
root 4578 0.0 0.0 1568 448 tty1 S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
root 4579 0.0 0.0 1568 448 tty2 S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
root 4580 0.0 0.0 1568 448 tty3 S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
root 4581 0.0 0.0 1568 448 tty4 S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
root 4582 0.0 0.0 1568 448 tty5 S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
root 4583 0.0 0.0 1568 448 tty6 S 23:50 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
hkt 4845 0.0 0.1 2552 1232 ? S 23:50 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startkde
hkt 4917 0.0 0.6 14220 5892 ? S 23:50 0:00 magicdev
hkt 4932 0.0 1.1 23620 10140 ? S 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: Running...
hkt 4935 0.0 1.1 23488 10276 ? S 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: dcopserver --nosid
hkt 4938 0.0 0.4 6216 3888 ? S 23:50 0:00 /usr/lib/gconfd-2 13
hkt 4939 0.0 1.3 25116 11848 ? S 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: klauncher
hkt 4942 0.1 2.3 175368 21668 ? SL 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: kded
hkt 4943 0.0 0.2 3376 1924 ? S 23:50 0:00 fam
hkt 4953 0.1 2.4 179076 22248 ? SL 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: knotify
hkt 4954 0.0 0.0 1572 340 ? S 23:50 0:00 kwrapper ksmserver
hkt 4956 0.0 2.0 172224 18932 ? SL 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: ksmserver
hkt 4957 0.2 2.3 174160 21148 ? SL 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: kwin -session 1150de552f000108982870400000049160000_1090010909_402931
hkt 4959 0.6 3.1 182116 28056 ? SL 23:50 0:01 kdeinit: kdesktop
hkt 4962 1.7 2.5 176380 23436 ? SL 23:50 0:05 kdeinit: kicker
hkt 4963 0.0 1.2 24724 10912 ? S 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: kio_file file /tmp/ksocket-hkt/klauncherOkpeAa.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-hkt/kd
hkt 4964 0.0 1.1 24604 10812 ? S 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: kio_file file /tmp/ksocket-hkt/klauncherOkpeAa.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-hkt/kd
hkt 4966 0.0 0.0 12116 596 ? S 23:50 0:00 kma -c /home/hkt/.kma/kma.conf
hkt 4971 0.1 2.2 173520 20580 ? SL 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: klipper
hkt 4973 0.0 2.1 172296 19048 ? SL 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: khotkeys
hkt 4975 0.1 2.4 175852 22564 ? SL 23:50 0:00 knotes -session 1150de552f000108982954800000049160017_1090010909_398190
hkt 4977 0.1 2.5 175676 22840 ? SL 23:50 0:00 kdeinit: kmix -session 1150de552f000108982958600000049160018_1090010909_397594
hkt 5027 0.9 3.1 49708 28828 ? S 23:51 0:02 /usr/lib/opera/7.51-20040602.1/opera --binarydir /usr/lib/opera/7.51-20040602.1/
hkt 5037 0.4 2.5 176036 22724 ? RL 23:52 0:00 kdeinit: konsole
hkt 5038 0.0 0.1 2768 1596 pts0 S 23:52 0:00 /bin/bash
hkt 5073 1.3 3.4 186372 31072 ? SL 23:53 0:01 k3b
hkt 5134 1.2 3.8 207896 34500 ? SL 23:53 0:01 kontact
hkt 5141 0.4 0.9 12496 8156 ? S 23:54 0:00 /usr/bin/xchat
hkt 5143 0.0 0.1 2536 1188 ? S 23:54 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/soundwrapper xmms
hkt 5146 0.2 0.7 27480 6432 ? S 23:54 0:00 xmms

Edit1: Typo

Edit2: There seems to be nothing with high memory or cpu occupations.. And the system works very slowly.

please post what services are running from MCC->system-services. i have 15 services running on my machine & my cpu is currently at 12% usage while typing here in Opera, running xchat, konsole, MCC, with 4 desktops enabled.

the output of ps -aux looks within the norm. you might also wanna try lower the screen res a bit. it might be that it's too high, even though the monitor says it can take that setting. not sure that it's the cuase of the problem, but i'm just thinking process of elimination here.

otis

You must now that LCD displays only have one optimal resolution and I have to use that. In this case it's 1280x1024. I any other res the picture isn't very good. And yesterday evening I tried with different resolutions but it didn't help.

When I select 1280x1024 from MCC, it prompts that I have to logout/login to settings take effect. When I do that and go back to MCC there is 1280x960. From the LCD displays own menu I can see that the res is really 1280x1024.

Well, enough of that.. I don't think that's the problem. I'll go and check the processes now.

Damn.. I can't do copy/paste

alsa
apmd
atd
crond
cups
devfsd
dm
harddrake
internet
jabber
keytable
kheader
lisa
netfs
network
nfs
nfslock
numlock
partmon
portmap
postfix
random
sound
syslog
udev
webmin
wine
xfs
xinetd


Then there's less than 10 processes that are "stopped" or there is no status visible. I checked with gkrellm and with switching desktops rapidly I can get the processor load up to 20%. With the KDE monitor thing it says over 90%. I have Opera, X-Chat, MCC and XMMS running now.

Edit: I'm DLing all the patches now.. let's see if that helps.

Edit2: Top screenshot. Looks like that after a few quick desktop changes. And lags.

THE FINAL EDIT: It was the damn KasBar app that caused the lag. I switched it off and no lag anymore. Ok guys thanks and remember, don't touch KasBar