[SOLVED] Problems with mice and KB

binkyd · 04-05-2020, 08:32 AM

Having serious mouse and keyboard issues - both are hesitant, as in delays between my finger movement and result on screen.
Makes it really hard to do stuff when you scroll away and nothing happens at first, and then the screen goes by really fast, of course passed where you want. KB can delay, too.

There's an old sticky on LQ about this, but it refers to this directory which does not exist:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.mouse

which I couldn't find readme anywhere.

The man pages refer to /dev/mouse, but I can't find that either.

Where and what in this system is causing this?

I first thought it was the distro, but this follows me. I seem to remember it having statred to occur on the previous PC also.

ferrari · 04-06-2020, 05:15 PM

Can you provide more definitive information about your input devices? How are they connected?

Code:

dmesg|grep input

Code:

xinput list

frankbell · 04-06-2020, 07:51 PM

Also, if you have the devices available, swap in a known-good mouse and keyboard and also try different USB ports, one change at a time, to rule out hardware issues.

binkyd · 04-08-2020, 09:35 AM

Code:

dmesg|grep input

gives no result

Code:

xinput list

result:

Code:

$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Logitech USB Optical Mouse              	id=8	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=6	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=7	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳   USB Keyboard                          	id=9	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳   USB Keyboard System Control           	id=10	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳   USB Keyboard Consumer Control         	id=11	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Dell WMI hotkeys                        	id=12	[slave  keyboard (3)]

(I don't know what this means)

I've tried 3 different mice, the Dell and the Belkin are really bad, the logitech usable. A 2nd KB was also affected. Tried different ports, too.

It gets better after a reboot, and gradually gets worse over several days.

ferrari · 04-08-2020, 05:32 PM

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ferrari · 04-08-2020, 07:47 PM

That's definitely not normal behaviour. Does this problem only occur within a graphical desktop environment? Try the keyboard behaviour outside of the Xorg server environment. If you need specific instructions, let us know your current distro and desktop environment details as well.

Post the output of these please

Code:

cat /etc/os-release

Code:

echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP

Code:

echo $DESKTOP_SESSION

Code:

lspci -nnk|grep -iA3 VGA

If you have 'inxi' installed, run

Code:

inxi -GSxx

That might help us advise further here.

ferrari · 04-08-2020, 07:49 PM

In addition to the above, let's check out current boot parameters

Code:

cat /proc/cmdline

jefro · 04-08-2020, 08:57 PM

"It gets better after a reboot, and gradually gets worse over several days."

Then maybe keep an eye on top for some sort of process use or memory use???

ferrari · 04-08-2020, 09:07 PM

Yes, good idea.

binkyd · 04-10-2020, 10:39 PM

Here ya go:

Code:

binkyd@BigBox:~$ cat /etc/os-release
NAME="Linux Mint"
VERSION="19.3 (Tricia)"
ID=linuxmint
ID_LIKE=ubuntu
PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 19.3"
VERSION_ID="19.3"
HOME_URL="https://www.linuxmint.com/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://forums.ubuntu.com/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="http://linuxmint-troubleshooting-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/"
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.linuxmint.com/"
VERSION_CODENAME=tricia
UBUNTU_CODENAME=bionic

binkyd@BigBox:~$ echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
X-Cinnamon

binkyd@BigBox:~$ echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
cinnamon

binkyd@BigBox:~$ lspci -nnk|grep -iA3 VGA
09:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X] [1002:67df] (rev c7)
	Subsystem: Dell Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/580] [1028:1701]
	Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
	Kernel modules: amdgpu

binkyd@BigBox:~$ inxi -GSxx
System:
  Host: BigBox Kernel: 5.3.0-46-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 7.5.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 wm: muffin dm: LightDM 
  Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X] vendor: Dell 
  driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.0 chip ID: 1002:67df 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.5 driver: amdgpu,ati 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon RX 480 Graphics (POLARIS10 DRM 3.33.0 
  5.3.0-46-generic LLVM 9.0.0) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.8 direct render: Yes 

binkyd@BigBox:~$ cat /proc/cmdline
BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.3.0-46-generic root=UUID=d6a1f580-c1d3-4750-8d34-973131c424b6 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1

And I found a very old mouse, definitely not USB 3.0, and it's been fine for the whole day so far.
I moved back to Mint over this - Manjaro had too many updates for me to figure this out.

ferrari · 04-11-2020, 12:45 AM

I have seen "erratic, laggy mouse and keyboard" issues reported for those with particular AMD chpisets and using the amdgpu driver. A quick search online will turn up results like this. One such thread was eventually resolved in this post with the OP announcing that they created a custom file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-amdgpu.conf

with this

Code:

Section "Device"
     Identifier "AMD"
     Driver "amdgpu"
     Option "DRI" "2"
EndSection

thereby forcing DRI 2 (as DRI 3 is usually default). Anyway, might be worth a shot. YMMV.

libroabierto · 04-11-2020, 06:11 PM

I have the same problem too. I hope I can get the answer on this topic. I've already seen some possible solutions here. I will try them.

ferrari · 04-11-2020, 06:45 PM

@libroabierto: In general it is best to start your own new thread (with descriptive title) for issues like this, as the underlying cause may be completely different. (Especially if your hardware is different.)

libroabierto · 04-12-2020, 03:25 PM

Thank you very much, I am going to open my own thread to look for chord solutions

binkyd · 04-16-2020, 04:32 PM

Possibly solved:
my 10 year (maybe) old mouse is working fine. The KB also has no more issues, in the original port.

All the other mice, 3 wired, 2 wireless, all have glitches, no matter which USB port I use. This old beast works just fine in the not-blue ports.
Beats me exactly why.

Maybe when it fails I'll need to hit a pawn shop for some old mice? lol