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It is very early days so this initial version is provided as a 64-Bit Deb and the UI only looks (semi) correct when running under Unity but ... it is a start. If anyone desperately wants to try it and can't wait for more packages to start to appear, my personal notes will get you an install, which you should be able to cleanly remove later, should you need to. The notes are unsupported and usage of them is entirely at your own risk.
P.S. I'll probably make a SlackBuild when I get a spare moment. The Arch guys already have a PKGBUILD.
The old Opera was a commercial (paid) closed source browser from the start about 20 years ago.
But the new one is based on the open source project Chromium, so unless they want to hide something fishy, there is no reason to not publish the source code.
Opera is not fully open source, in the same way that Chrome is not. We upstream all our changes to Chromium, V8 and Blink so you can get the source from those projects
Opera is not fully open source, in the same way that Chrome is not. We upstream all our changes to Chromium, V8 and Blink so you can get the source from those projects.
Exactly that is a very good reason to favor Chromium (or forks like SRware Iron) over both Chrome and Opera. Especially because Chromium is not riddled with ads.
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IMHO, "Opera is dead." Killed by its makers. Bury it and move on. Don't step on the maggots.
From what I've seen of the Opera chrome clone for windows, I would have to agreed. The old Opera (presto) was a great browser. Too bad the company has consistently had what appears to be some of the worst management in the business.
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Reason: Change "Chrome Clone" to "Opera chrome clone...'
From what I've seen of the Chrome Clone for windows, I would have to agreed. The old Opera (presto) was a great browser. Too bad the company has consistently had what appears to be some of the worst management in the business.
I have mainly have no use of something, what is even more restricted than Chromium. First thing I do after installing a new browser is to remove Google as the default search engine and configure DuckDuckGo instead. The joke browser Opera doesn't allow this. Chromium even allows you to disable "search suggestions", so the browser doesn't keylog everything you type into the address bar. In Chromium, I don't have a large Google logo in my face, once I remove the default search engine. And Chrome also doesn't come with a speed-dial full of advertisement crap pre-installed.
Let me try here also. Anyone else, please do answer if you know.
Hey ruario. So any idea at all when 24 is coming out (i suppose that will be the first stable linux version?). I didn't manage to find the release schedule anywhere...
Opera
For about a decade I was a user and fan of the Opera web browser. Though not an open source application, I felt Opera was unusually innovative, fast, stable and feature rich. The browser also had a surprisingly flexible user interface for the time. Opera, I was sorry to note, appeared to stop developing its web browser for GNU/Linux and FreeBSD sometime around the middle of 2013. Development continued on for Windows and Android users while desktop Linux and BSD users were left out in the cold for the better part of a year.
Opera recently announced they were bringing a new web browser with a new interface and rendering engine to the GNU/Linux platform. The new Opera web browser, version 24.0, has done away with the Presto rendering engine in favour of Google's Blink engine. The interface now looks like a mixture of Opera's classic browser combined with Google's Chromium browser. I downloaded and installed this development release and gave it a whirl to see how the new Opera browser would compare against the old, Presto-powered browser.
[Opera]
Opera 24.0 - tabs and menu
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My first impression of Opera 24 was that the new browser looks fairly similar to the default layout of Opera 12. We are treated to a similar menu, the same speed-dial feature and similar tab behaviour. Opera was, I happily noted, still remarkably fast and it remained stable during my time with the browser. In short, a lot of the old features that made me appreciate Opera were still in place. However, some things had changed and, I believe, not for the better.
For example, Opera previously had a flexible and easy-to-organize bookmark system. Bookmarks appear to have been removed and replaced with something called "Stash". In Opera 24 we can click a heart icon in the address bar to add a page to our Stash or speed-dial screen. We can then bring up our Stash in a new tab. The Stash tab shows us a list of pages we have marked by clicking the heart icon, optionally with a preview of the Stashed pages. In short, we still have bookmarks, but they are accessed through a separate tab rather than a bookmark menu or toolbar. Personally, this feels a bit more roundabout to me, but I will say that the ability to preview pages in the Stash is a nice touch. Opera 24 still has a built-in extension manager, however all my searches for new Extensions turned up no results. Perhaps the new Opera will not have extensions until it hits a stable release.
Finally, there is the interface. Opera 24 appears to have a one-size-fits-all approach to its user interface. As someone who greatly appreciated the flexibility of Opera's previous web browsers, I was disappointed to see the new browser is more or less locked into one layout. The layout works fairly well, but I do crave the ability to move things around to better suit my personal style. Finally, I note that the settings panel has completely changed. Most of the old configuration options are still there, though a few appear to be missing. In particular, I noticed I could still add new search engines to the list of available search engines, but I could not change existing search engines nor set a newly added search engine as the default.
[Opera]
Opera 24.0 - the settings tab
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All in all, Opera 24 worked fairly well for me, but three things bothered me. First, the new version appears to have been streamlined (some might say "dumbed down"). The interface is simplified, but also requires more steps to get things done. The once-flexible browser is more locked down, more set in its ways. Extensions have not caught up to Opera 24 yet, though those will probably come soon. My biggest concern though is the new Opera browser appears to be imitating Chromium. Which seems a shame to me since Opera used to have so many features and options which made it a welcome (though niche) player in the browser market, it had power and personality. Now Opera appears to be joining Firefox in becoming a clone of Chromium, setting aside personality and power in favour of familiarity and a sleeker interface. Opera 24 feels less like an evolution of the Opera browser and more like a remake of Chromium and we don't need one of those, we already have Chromium. It is my hope that Opera's developers already know this and will work to reintroduce old features onto their new platform, making the Opera browser unique again.
I'm not sure I understand this question. It has worked on Slackware from day one.
If you are asking about us supplying an official package in Slackware format there are no current plans to do so but bear in mind that we never offered an official Slackware package for the presto version either. You should also consider that of the 1000+ packages included with Slackware how many offer a Slackware package (or even an rpm or deb for that matter) upstream.
Here are my notes to get Opera running on non Debian distros
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I was just going to post the announcement. Here is the link,
