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Old 01-18-2006, 06:48 PM   #1
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how to make a disc that will play on a CD player


What do I need to burn on a CD-RW so that it will play on a CD player?
(such as a common CD/radio or a car CD player)

I've put an ogg vorbis file onto a CD-RW using serpentine (http://s1x.homelinux.net/projects/serpentine)
It plays fine using 'CD player' on the PC
(although it says that I'm playing a track called 'The Tain' by 'The Decemberists' ???)
But, my stand-alone CD player doesn't show any tracks on the disc and so won't play it.

1) What format (ogg, wav, mp3) should I use?
2) Do I need to also include a playlist? In which case what format? And should I 'Add' the playlist file before Adding the audio track?

Thanks
Alan
 
Old 01-18-2006, 07:06 PM   #2
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regular cd players use a format called .cda, which stands for compact disc audio. So you need to convert your mp3's or whatever you use to that format to burn.
 
Old 01-18-2006, 07:13 PM   #3
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Just use K3B and select audio disc. But to answer your question, CD's use .wav

Edit: They may use cda as a container, I'm not sure... however, the actual format is wav.
 
Old 01-18-2006, 07:22 PM   #4
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Thanks.

I've just had this reply from crdlb at the Gnome forums:

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Burn it to a CD-R, not a CD-RW. Many older CD players cannot properly read the content on a CD-RW but nearly all can read CD-Rs. Rewritable CDs(CD-RW) use a special reversible burning technology that allows the disc to be erased. You could try the CD-RW in a recent CD Player to test my theory.

The format of the song doesn't matter since an audio CD burner like serpentine will automatically convert the song file into uncompressed (WAV) audio before burning.

BTW, the bad song information is due to the fact that the gnome CD player sends off the length of each track on the CD to the freedb database, and it returns the closest match from the CDs in its database.
And my CD-RW does work on a newer CD player (just tested it)

Maybe it's the older CD players that need the .cda wrapper?
(but that's just a very big guess).

But thanks very much for the info.
You've both given me some pointers if it starts going wrong again.

Cheers
Al
 
Old 01-18-2006, 10:23 PM   #5
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The newer CD players can handle mp3, wav, wma formats and possible others in addition to a regular store bought music CD. So check the specifications of your particular unit. An audio CD will be compatable with all players. Store bought audio CDs use the CD-A format also known as CD-DA or redbook. CDA is not a filesystem and like everyone knows can not be mounted in linux. Music CDs are not the same thing as wav files.

There are lots of apps that can convert audio from the mp3, wav etc to CD-A and vice versa.

Last edited by michaelk; 01-19-2006 at 06:18 AM.
 
Old 01-24-2006, 10:04 AM   #6
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There are lots of apps that can convert audio from the mp3, wav etc to CD-A and vice versa.
I've searched at Freshmeat and SourceForge. Plenty to play/rip cda, but nothing says that it will convert _to_ cda.

What app would you recommend?

Thanks again
Alan
 
Old 01-24-2006, 10:47 AM   #7
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Sorry, I used the wrong term. Convert to CDA isn't correct since there isn't an application that will convert to CDA. You want something that will create an audio CD.

k3b, xcdrecord, Gnome toaster are frontend GUIs for the command line utilities cdrecord and cdrdao. These actually do the work of creating both data and audio CDs. k3b is probably the best.

Look at this:
http://linuxgazette.net/118/weatherwax.html
http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/Lin...ialCDBurn.html
http://www.yolinux.com/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
 
Old 01-31-2006, 08:25 PM   #8
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Hi Michael K and others

Sorry for the big delay, I've been playing with the software...

gtoaster doesn't recognize my CD/DVD writer (NEC ND-2500A).

And, I get the same result with K3b as I had with serpentine:
Plays fine on a newer CD player; won't play on an older CD player.

Before I start burning/wasting CD-Rs, could you confirm the settings I should have on K3b to put audio tracks on a CD?

And do I need to explicitely add a TOC or similar file?

I've tried 'Auto', 'DAO', 'TAO', and 'RAW'; with and without an image; with and without CD-Text; ...

Sorry to keep bugging.

Thanks again
Alan
 
  


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