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Old 08-27-2009, 11:53 AM   #61
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I was thinking that I could use Enterprise Linux to complete this tutorial first before I finish download CentOS DVD. But I was stuck by asking me to register. I have some problem downloading CentOS 5.3 ISO Image. It seem to have session expire. I can't complete download image at a time. I need to schedule and download it for a few days. But when I come back other day and resume download it stop working and I need to download from the beginning. Now I have fedora 11 live CD in my hand. If I can use it for this tutorial, it wouldn't wasting the time.
 
Old 08-27-2009, 08:09 PM   #62
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Your profile doesn't show where you live, but most countries have companies (sometimes an ISP) that can supply eg CENTOS 5.3 DVD for a small sum.
I use http://www.linuxit.com.au/ for example. Currently AUD 9.99 for Centos 5.3 DVD (plus postage).
No connection, just a satisfied customer.
 
Old 08-28-2009, 12:43 AM   #63
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Not sure if it works the same way as in Debian (I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong), but couldn't you download the NETINSTALL CD of CentOS? It's a lot smaller, gets you started very fast and after the base installation you can install only what you need.

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Old 08-29-2009, 12:59 AM   #64
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There is not net install cd but you can install it on the internet. You still need the first cd where you can choose all the options available. And as suggested you can get dvd from some one near you. If you do not want to buy the first place to look is your local LUG. The members will happily help if they have what you want. Otherwise there are a lot of good magazines that will give the cd or dvd with the issue. You could look for some book store that will give you one.

Also be aware that Fedora 11 has short life cycle and is not recommended for servers. Its meant to be a desktop operating system. CentOS is the one you want on servers if you are looking for RHEL based.
 
Old 08-29-2009, 01:07 AM   #65
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There is not net install cd but you can install it on the internet.
Hello Chaitanya,

I'm not trying to contradict but what do you mean that there's no netinstall? I've checked the Spanish CentOS mirror and they have a
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CentOS-5.3-i386-netinstall.iso   21-Mar-2009 16:05  8.3M
listed. It's only 8.3Mb and I'm not sure if it does the same or equivalent as Debian. Not trying to go into discussion since I know very little of CentOS but my reference to the netinstall came from the CentOS site.

Could you clarify what this netinstall is?

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 08-29-2009, 01:31 AM   #66
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Thats ok. I have not downloaded the netinstall or for that matter centos for sometime now. I have subscription for a linux magazine and receive dvds with and use them so have not needed to download the images for long. I might have been wrong. Thanks for correcting. But I have not seen net install on english site. I may have missed it though.
But if it is difficult for OP to download the image for slow internet, then it is likely he will face issues with net install as well.
 
Old 08-29-2009, 01:35 AM   #67
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Ok got it. This is where you can download and find the howto to use netinstall.
http://www.chrisgountanis.com/techni...etinstall.html
 
Old 08-29-2009, 01:47 AM   #68
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No worries Chaitanya,

Thanks for the update. You're correct about the slow internet connection but, in my experience with the netinstall from Debian, an installation performed with a netinstall just installs a clean workable environment from which you can install only what you need. On the other hand I've encountered installations performed from CD/DVD install a lot more 'unwanted' software. So it's like a knife that cuts both edges.

I think that it depends a lot from the OP's plans. If he wants to use a GUI environment to administer his server, then I'd say go for the CD/DVD option because downloading X through a slow internet connection can take up A LOT of time.

If on the other hand he just wants the server without GUI then I think he'll be better of with the netinstall and just downloading and installing what he needs.

True that the manual that was proposed to him uses the graphical install screenshots, but I'm sure that we here at LQ can help him out if he decides to go with the netinstall/text install.

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 08-29-2009, 01:56 AM   #69
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Yes GUI is hell when it comes to taking resources and bandwidth. But if OP is new to linux he would prefer GUI administration ( the old windows way to do things ). But anyhow, I would like hear from OP on his requirements rather than "just help me out on installation" things.
Net installation for Debian seems quite nice but I do not have knowledge if it would work the same way for CentOS but even with dvd or cd install it is possible to customize the installation.
The more OP gives information the more could we help, be it net install or cd / dvd.
 
Old 08-29-2009, 02:04 AM   #70
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I think the OP is busy downloading/installing since he hasn't been here for about 36 hours. We'll just have to wait.

Kind regards,

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Old 08-29-2009, 02:23 AM   #71
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I use CentOS for my web serving needs.
 
Old 08-29-2009, 02:29 AM   #72
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I use CentOS for my web serving needs.
You could also give some more information to OP on how you use it. Like how you install it and what configuration you use and how you maintain. Not just spoon feeding though but links to where you can find information or anything that you find it useful based on your experience with web servers and centos.
 
Old 08-29-2009, 03:45 AM   #73
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You could also give some more information to OP on how you use it. Like how you install it and what configuration you use and how you maintain. Not just spoon feeding though but links to where you can find information or anything that you find it useful based on your experience with web servers and centos.
You are absolutely right.

I use CentOS 5.3 i686 with WebHostManager 11.24.2 and cPanel 11.24.5-R38506.

I run approximately 10 web sites using cPanel. I allow WHM to control just about everything. From the FTP server, Apache, MySQL, Named, Exim, etc...


I also run about 5 Unreal Tournament gaming servers and a Teamspeak 2 voice server on the server.

You can learn more about WHM and cPanel here: http://www.cpanel.net/

The only down side is that it costs to use. It's not open source and I think it runs around $445+ per year. I pay roughly $25 extra a month to have cPanel on my server through my server host.
 
Old 08-29-2009, 04:23 AM   #74
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I like to add a bit to the discussion about the OS selection:

Ubuntu server (LTS versions) is supported for 5 years; the LTS versions are currently 6.06 (supported till june 2011) and 8.04 (supported till april 2013).
Centos's reputation for updates does not seem to be to good at this moment ( see e.g. http://lwn.net/Articles/326721/ ) and more hits when googling for centos updates late

The problem that I personally have with Ubuntu server is that it does things a different way (a2ensite comes to mind). I don't know if Debian 'suffers' from the same (never tried it).
Further a standard Ubuntu server install lacks some basic packages (like ssh daemon); so additional downloads are required before you can even start which is an issue if the box is not connected to the internet (which is my case).

Personally I love my Slackware servers. Contrary to popular belief, I consider them very simple to set up. But that's of course a personal opinion and might (nowadays) be partially due to the fact that I have played with them from version 10.0 . You can find a discussion about the life cycle here on LQ.

I'm currently looking into Arch which is, what Arch calls, a rolling release. This implies that there is basically only one version that is forever updated. I haven't tried it yet but that sounds promising to my ears; installation looks like it will definitely be more work than the others that I've mentioned.
 
Old 08-29-2009, 07:39 AM   #75
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Hi everyone. I glad to hear all of you waiting here to help me. Actually, I have found another mirror to download CentOS 5.3 and I hope it won't has any problem anymore. While I'm hanging at HowtoForge, I found a tutorial about "Perfect Server - Ubuntu 9.04 (ISPConfig 3)" and I remember that I have Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop CD. So I think I will try to learn this section before CentOS 5.3 downloading is finish. How do you think about Web Server on Ubuntu? And I also found something strange. I found "Perfect Server - Fedora 11 (ISPConfig 2)". So I'm looking Fedora 11 (ISPConfig 3) but I found "Perfect Server - Fedora 10 (ISPConfig 3) instead. This is non sense.

I heard you guys talking that Fedora Life Cycle is short. What is Life Cycle in Linux system anyways?
I heard you guys talking about OP. What is OP?
 
  


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