OP is the opening post or opening poster.

The life cycle is how long a distribution is supported (I think it was already answered earlier). Standard Ubuntu's (both server and desktop) are only supported for 18 month after which you have to upgrade to the next version; Fedora probably the same. Possibly fine for the hobby but not fine for a webhosting service.

I'm don't get it completely. The life cycle is how long a distribution is supported. after, I have to upgrade to the next version. Is it like expiration? Is it like 30 days trial? When the time's up, have to register?

No, it isn't like it 'expires' and then you have to register; it's not like a 30-day trial.

As I understand it, the 'life cycle' refers to how long after the release (whether it's enterprise or not) the developers actively support, upgrade, bug-fix, etc. until eventually, once the life cycle is dead, there is no more active support from the developers.

You can still *use* the system, just like always, but there will be no support of any kind from the developers, no more updates/upgrades, etc. so you would be on your own when it comes to fixing and maintaining it.

Sasha

Oh that make sense. Thanks GrapefruiTgirl. So it is not a problem because I can get support from you here. By the way, After install as a Web Server, I don't have to do any update. It is not necessary to do that.

Do you know why they make tutorial about ISPConfig 3 in Fedora 10 instead of Fedora 11 and ISPConfig 2 in Fedora 11?

Hello,

I wouldn't say that . Updating fixes security issues found in applications, like the Apache webserver for example. So you definitely need to update. What is not so urgent is upgrading to a newer release of a distribution for example, as long as you keep updating your packages.

Kind regards,

Eric

Yep that's the idea -- community support, rather than official support.
Nope, I have no clue but it sounds backwards doesn't it! Maybe ISPconfig 3 is less stable, and they wanted it to be known-good in its inclusion into F-11, so they included ISPconfig 2 instead ?


Sasha

But update system might cause problem. Updating might change some configuration. It might conflict with the others. Since it work fine. We shouldn't try to cause problem to ourselves. If something's wrong the company will blame us.

Since CentOS downloading is not complete, I'm confusing which distributor I should try. Is there a way to enable yum to be use temporarily in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5?

Ok, let's assume this: you have your webserver up and running with let's say 10 sites and everything is running smoothly. Then you neglect a security update that lets a 'backdoor' or 'exploit' to your server wide open to anyone who wants/can use it. Next thing you know your server is being hacked, your sites are no longer accessible and your companies data is out for grabs on the net.

I really think your company/management will be a lot angrier at you if you don't keep your server/applications/packages up to date.

I'm not trying to scare you but just keeping it real. I co-administer several servers (with over 100 websites on it) owned by my friends hosting company and rest assured that if we don't update 'very' frequently and monitor adequately our servers will be compromised at the blink of an eye. Luckily for us this only happened 2 times in 6 years.

Don't underestimate updating and never assume that those things will not happen to you.

Kind regards,

Eric

I think the hacker can hack us because they can guess our password or they have a chance to touch our server. By the way, update is just slow down the performance of our server. Anyways, I think adding one more firewall is more brilliant. I have never been hacked before.

What is command to delete a folder in linux?
How to uninstall program in linux?
There are 2 type of Ubuntu. Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop and Ubuntu 9.04 Server. Can I use Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop to run as a server?

I'm not going into a discussion on security issues my friend, but rest assured that you're making THE underestimation of the year. Do yourself a favour once you have your webserver running, install something like SNORT on another machine and read through the attempts being made to hack your server.

Hackers don't need to guess your password, the enter your system through an open port that you are not securing enough, use known errors in applications and you'll only know when it's too late.

You state you've never been hacked, how many servers/website do you have out there on the internet in combination with your non-updating policies?

Kind regards,

Eric

That probably I'm not experience enough with that. But we are not big enough to draw attention of any hacker. I'm sure you are big so you have to be careful with the security. I will learn more about security when I can setup this new web server. The more I talk to you, the more experience I earn.

Oh this is a little problem I want to know.
What is command to delete a folder in linux?
How to uninstall program in linux?
There are 2 type of Ubuntu. Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop and Ubuntu 9.04 Server. Can I use Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop to run as a server?

Hey, it's up to you guy, just pointing out a few things. You'll know at least where to come to when you're in the loop.

Removing file/directory in Linux (only some options):
Please read the man pages.
Un-installing a program, if you want to do it cleanly that is, is using the same package manager you used to install it in the first place.

That way dependencies and links get cleaned up in a good way.

Someone else will surely explain the main differences between Ubuntu desktop and server, or... you could just do a search on LQ or Google, what gave me this:
Desktop vs Server Ubuntu
Other mentioning

Kind regards,

Eric

@ koudom,

You or your company do not need to "draw the attention" of any hackers, for them to come knocking at the door!

They run automated programs which browse the net looking for open ports and/or other vulnerabilities.

Besides that, you or your company don't even need to be doing anything remotely interesting, for a hacker to want to hack your system. They do it just for the fun of it, "because they *can*", just to be annoying and cause you grief.

Best of luck,
Sasha

Let's try to get some things straight:
You have our support but we don't provide bugfixes so you have to use something with long term support if you sue it professionally.
Updates are necessary to fix bugs. They might indeed break things and therefore, in a professional environment, you will have two or three webservers. The first one is the actual one that serves the pages, the second one is an up-to-date copy (or as much up-to-date as possible) that will be used at the moment that the first one develops a problem (e.g. HD crash). And the third one is used to test if updates will break your system or not (you can use the second one for that).

I don't work in a webserver business, but for mission critical stuff we use three servers (two in the live environment and one in a lab environment for the testing)

That's indeed an ideal situation pointed out by Wim. But if for some reasons you cannot have three servers you might consider using something like virtualization or so. But main thing if you are going pro and provide hosting on your server. Have a pretty good backup solution. It can and will save you time on more than one occasion.

Kind regards,

Eric