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Old 01-01-2015, 05:38 PM   #31
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Are you serious about this guy? Can't you see this is an obvious failed trolling? It's not even humorous, it's just plain and silly. He interprets things literally whenever he wants to
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Cancer that is Linux? Where did that come from??? Linux is not a cancer. Runs most of the web servers in the world and most supercomputers also.
and he keeps insisting on the same thing like a mule. This is just a stupid prank, really and this whole thread should definitely be deleted.

This guy's saying that he's installed linux from scratch but now has "general" problems about using Ubuntu... This is, I repeat, just poor trolling, nothing more.
 
Old 01-01-2015, 08:56 PM   #32
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Yes, I was refering to Microsoft Office. You are right that I should have made it clear. I tried LibreOffice and it doesnt give that same experice/quickness as MS Office.
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i find ms-excel to be snappier and efficient than open-office calc. but i find open-office writer to be snappier and efficient than ms-word.

this is only half-trollish but maybe you can post a thread on a windows forum asking about support for ms-office on gnu/linux.
 
Old 01-01-2015, 09:42 PM   #33
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Are you serious about this guy? Can't you see this is an obvious failed trolling? It's not even humorous, it's just plain and silly. He interprets things literally whenever he wants to and he keeps insisting on the same thing like a mule. This is just a stupid prank, really and this whole thread should definitely be deleted.

This guy's saying that he's installed linux from scratch but now has "general" problems about using Ubuntu... This is, I repeat, just poor trolling, nothing more.
Like I mentioned, I might have misinterpreted that post because it didnt make sense to me.

Again, Im not trolling, trying to waste anyone's time. Im here to get some help.


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i find ms-excel to be snappier and efficient than open-office calc. but i find open-office writer to be snappier and efficient than ms-word.
Ive worked more with OpenOffice than LibreOffice I must admit. I worked with OpenOffice with a company and man, was it slow....I tried LibreOffice recently when a version came out (can't remember which) and it did feel snappier, but it wasnt for me. Thats a opinion.

Basically, the problem is running Windows program under WINE. OK. Just for the sake of everyone's complains, lets ignore that:

Hello

As a learning experience, I want to jump from Windows 7 to Linux full time on my laptop. This isn't because of some antiWindows bullshit or because its free or anything like that. I just want to learn the ins and outs of Linux like I pretty much know on Windows.

I plan to go with Ubuntu. LTS or latest stable version? Thoughts?

First off, compatibility. I do need that all my hardware on my laptop be compatible. From shortcut keys to wifi. This is not a brand new laptop so there shouldn't be any problems. Its a Dell Vostro 1510.

Next, virtualization. Due to some things cannot be ran in Linux, Ill use a VM. VMWare with its unity feature pretty much gives me what I want.

Next, streaming. I need to be able to stream media from a WS2012R2 to this Linux installation. Special setup?

Anything that is blowing over me, please mention.

Thank you


Is everyone happier with this first post and can we move on?
 
Old 01-01-2015, 10:00 PM   #34
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Ubuntu would not be my first choice as it has so much additional unnecssary stuff installed it will slow down over time, I would rather run debian testing, or, even Sid & the difference will be noticeable.
I myself have windows on my laptops, which I don't use but if I decide to sell any of them all I have to do is fix the mbr & remove debian or kali from whichever laptop or desktop I want to sell.
 
Old 01-02-2015, 05:05 AM   #35
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Steve Ballmer called Linux "a cancer".
A quick websearch for the Dell Vostro 1510 and Linux:

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl...tro+1510+linux

Get reading.
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When you ask "What distro should I use?", everyone will recommend their favourite. Do some distrohopping on your Dell, try a few 'til you find one that suits you.

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Old 01-02-2015, 09:54 AM   #36
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First off, compatibility. I do need that all my hardware on my laptop be compatible. From shortcut keys to wifi. This is not a brand new laptop so there shouldn't be any problems. Its a Dell Vostro 1510.
the media shortcut keys work on my logitech wireless keyboard running fc-15. maybe if you post the output of lspci/lsusb and the buttons that arent working maybe someone would be able to help troubleshoot ?
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Next, software. Basically on this laptop software I use in and out: uTorrent, Teamviewer, WMP, mIRC, Skype, vSphere Client, Microsoft Office......That's pretty much it IMO. Also Facebook and YouTube (Flash) are a must. I will run all this software in WINE. I don't want (most) of the Linux ports. Im not looking to replace programs I like and use daily. Just looking to replace the operating system.

Next, virtualization. Due to some things (like Office) cannot be ran in Linux, I use a VM. VMWare with its unity feature pretty much gives me what I want.

Next, streaming. I need to be able to stream media from a WS2012R2 to this Linux installation. Special setup?
i think many pc users lock themselves into believing that only one program exists to perform a certain application. here is a list of programs that you list - the application category (and a few linux programs).
uTorrent - bittorrent client (utorrent, transmission, ...)
Teamviewer - desktop sharing app (vinagre, xrdp, ...)
WMP - media player (vlc, kodi, ...)
mIRC - irc client (pidgen, ...)
Skype - videofone (skype, google-hangouts, ...)
vSphere Client - cloud computing service (amazon aws/ec2, ...)
Microsoft Office - office suite (open-office, libre-office, google-docs, ...)
Facebook - social network (...)
YouTube - video sharing site (...)
(Flash) - web browser video plugin (h5-webm, flash, ...)
VMWare - virtual machine (vmware, virtualbox, ...)
WS2012R2 - video streaming service (httpd, sshfs, netcat, dlna, ...)
i havent heard of a few of them so i had to guess by context.

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Old 01-02-2015, 03:09 PM   #37
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Ubuntu would not be my first choice as it has so much additional unnecssary stuff installed it will slow down over time, I would rather run debian testing, or, even Sid & the difference will be noticeable.
I myself have windows on my laptops, which I don't use but if I decide to sell any of them all I have to do is fix the mbr & remove debian or kali from whichever laptop or desktop I want to sell.
Yeah, Debian was my other thought.

I read Linux Mint was the "new kid on the block" that everyone was talking about but Im not sure.

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When you ask "What distro should I use?", everyone will recommend their favourite. Do some distrohopping on your Dell, try a few 'til you find one that suits you.
I disagree. With a transition like this, I dont think anyone will say for example Kali Linux....

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the media shortcut keys work on my logitech wireless keyboard running fc-15. maybe if you post the output of lspci/lsusb and the buttons that arent working maybe someone would be able to help troubleshoot ?
The shortcut keys Ill have to check out. I imagine that they will be compatible.

Sadly, Im going to have to make the transition later than sooner as I have a issue with a ESXi box here that I have to solve before actually making any type of movement. I might come back to this thread later because any compatibily questions havent been really answered as everyone was SO obessesed with WINE...

Thank to those that did try to help.
 
Old 01-02-2015, 05:19 PM   #38
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I love the "problably" in your signature. Clever, as the whole idea of creating it!
 
Old 01-02-2015, 08:16 PM   #39
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I read Linux Mint was the "new kid on the block" that everyone was talking about but Im not sure.
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newbies seem to like linux mint since they are based in ireland and outside of the fbi's jurisdiction and therefore include copyrighted codecs like flash, mp3, mpeg4, ...
those require another step to enable on most other distros.
 
Old 01-02-2015, 08:57 PM   #40
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I love the "problably" in your signature.
Thank you, grammer police. Oh what would we do without you!

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newbies seem to like linux mint since they are based in ireland and outside of the fbi's jurisdiction and therefore include copyrighted codecs like flash, mp3, mpeg4, ...
those require another step to enable on most other distros.
Oh I see. Thats why they can include all that...
 
Old 01-03-2015, 02:35 AM   #41
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I just want to learn the ins and outs of Linux like I pretty much know on Windows.
I think you can accomplish this with just about any distro. I'd say just pick a distro and go ahead and jump in -- leave this thread behind and get on with it. If your first distro choice isn't a good fit for you (and only you can really determine that), switch to a different one, nothing's stopping you from doing that. Experiencing different distros, by the way, can also be quite helpful in furthuring your understanding of Linux.

Ubuntu LTS would be a good choice, in my opinion, but so would Debian and a lot of others.

I think that if you stick with Windows apps too much it'll just slow you down from really learning "the ins and outs of Linux," but if that's the approach you want to take then go for it. I actually took a slow approach during my first year with Linux -- I had Linux on one computer, just kinda toying around with it, while I did most of my "real" stuff on my Windows computer. I figured that I had plenty of time. That worked out fine for my situation. But for the past several years, I've been (happily) running only Linux at home.

I found your reaction to astrogeek's use of "M$" to be about as childish as you seem to think people are who refer to Microsoft that way. Maybe you could have simply looked past his use of "M$" and let it slide right by, and taken the rest of his post to heart. Looked to me like he was trying to help you, and your reaction was to insult him with that "childish" bit. Then you just had to add, "Grow up." Seriously? I'm not one of those who uses "M$" to refer to Microsoft, but I thought your reaction was quite unnecessary.

Anyway, good luck, I hope you accomplish what you're aiming for. Maybe just try to start with a distro that has great documentation and then read, read, read. And experiment a lot -- even if that means trying out Linux alternatives to Windows programs!
 
Old 01-03-2015, 04:47 AM   #42
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When you ask "What distro should I use?", everyone will recommend their favourite. Do some distrohopping on your Dell, try a few 'til you find one that suits you.
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I disagree. With a transition like this, I dont think anyone will say for example Kali Linux....
No, they wouldn't, not as an all-round, general-purpose distro. Kali's too specialised. OK if you're working in penetration-testing or forensics, or a script-kiddie who fancies himself as a 1337 h4XX0r.
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Which version of Micro$oft Windoze do you recommend? 7, 8.1, or wait for 10?

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Old 01-03-2015, 09:16 AM   #43
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Thank you, grammer police. Oh what would we do without you!


Oh I see. Thats why they can include all that...
Like the pot calling the kettle black. You seem to be a form of grammar police by simplistic attempt of discipline;
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The quickest way of putting Microsoft is MS. Period.

MS = (Caps) m s
M$ = (Caps) m (hold Shift) 4

Anyone who puts the second method has the only childish goal of looking cool and hating on a company who wants to make profit. Simple as that.

Then again, the second method guys probably also debate about saying "GNU/Linux" or "Linux" so what can you expect...
Calling someone childish for their views is just plain biased on your part by showing no respect to that same person. This use of M$ does represent that users views on Microsoft as a corporate menace. If you cannot respect someone's opinion/viewpoint then how do you expect that same person to show respect to you?
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You have every right to challenge someone's point of view but as the above rule states, do so with respect. Calling someone childish is not respectful nor something we support at LQ.

I look at your signature as nothing more than the means to phish or troll for a argumentative response. Poor taste with open show of disrespect for other LQ members who do not share your opinion on M$!
 
Old 01-03-2015, 09:31 AM   #44
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Like the pot calling the kettle black. You seem to be a form of grammar police by simplistic attempt of discipline;
My thoughts exactly. Obviously I wouldn't have pointed out such a minor mistake if it had been made in a post, but this guy seems not to be able to tell the difference between a signature and a post - at least in terms of grammar importance
 
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I have two hard drives in my machine. One running Windows 7 Pro and the other Ubuntu 14.10. Every other day I boot to one or the other. I AM a basic windows user from DOC. There are a couple of windows programs holding me back using Ubuntu more - Quicken, I have tried a couple Linux programs to switch but didn't have the brain power to make it all work.

Recently I have been having problems with Facebook, in Ubuntu...I have read something about Shockwave not being supported... O'Well...

I also use a Microscope - Dino-Lite "DinoCapture" in Windows...found no usable Linux app yet... another...O'Well..

That's my two bit..

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