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Old 04-24-2005, 11:39 PM   #16
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ok, so there should be a route for 0.0.0.0 using 'route -n',
and you should be able to ping your ISP's dns servers
(if you know their address(es)).

For sanity check with 'host www.linuxquestions.org'

If you get results from above then you have browser problem,
otherwise it sounds like it would be dns related.
 
Old 04-25-2005, 01:06 AM   #17
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So what browser are you using?

Are you running KDE?

I installed Mandrake 10.1, only problem I had was with the video stuff.
It had no problem finding and configuring for the ether net card.
I have a 4 port router, and that is how I network all my PC's in the house,
The router is hooked to DSL.

To get on the net with Mandrake you need to be running KDE and running
the browser, mine is Konqueror.
 
Old 04-25-2005, 01:13 AM   #18
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I haven't tried mandrake for years I'm afraid ... and rarely use KDE.
My preferred browser is firefox.
My setup is a little more complex, and I have ADSL.

Can you load your router's configuration page using konqueror?
Can you 'ping www.linuxquestions.org'?
 
Old 04-26-2005, 04:02 AM   #19
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Hi,
1. No firewall. Shorewall is disabled.
2. On typing host www.linuxquestions.org i get unknown host error after a long time.
3. If i try ping www.linuxquestions.org i get timeout within 10 seconds...
4, I cant ping the DNS servers. There are 2 addresses and drakconnect shows them both(Its correct. i verified in WindowsXP)drakconnect also shows my IP address correctly.

So i presume the problem is not with my card or modem - only some settnigs... Thanks for helping me.. i have a feeling that i'll get it to work with ur help..

EDIT: I cant ping my DNS servers in Windows too. i get Request timed out. But internet connection is OK.

Last edited by marauder133; 04-26-2005 at 04:05 AM.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 05:22 AM   #20
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It would appear that you still have not configured your network interface.
ifconfig eth0
will tell you the IP address of eth0 (if it is up and running).
Please check this first ... without going thru the rest of the crap!

You OBVIOUSLY need an active network before going any further.
Please re-read the steps outlined previously.

WHEN you have this sorted, you then need a route...
route -n
should have a 0.0.0.0 entry which lists your router as a gateway.

Can you ping your router?

Last edited by uberNUT69; 04-26-2005 at 06:34 AM.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 11:09 AM   #21
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Here're the details...

Code:
[root@localhost root]# ifconfig eth0
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:FC:F7:5A:60
          inet addr:202.83.37.211  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.248.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::250:fcff:fef7:5a60/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1246 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2901 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:83846 (81.8 Kb)  TX bytes:125143 (122.2 Kb)
          Interrupt:11 Base address:0xc000

[root@localhost root]# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination          Gateway         Genmask          Flags    Metric    Ref    Use Iface
202.83.32.0          0.0.0.0         255.255.248.0        U         0         0        0 eth0
0.0.0.0              202.83.32.1          0.0.0.0              UG        0         0        0 eth0


[root@localhost root]# ping 202.83.32.1
PING 202.83.32.1 (202.83.32.1) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 202.83.32.1 ping statistics ---
173 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 171974ms
It looks like eth0 interface(whatever that is) is UP right?
and router is the one which ends in .1 right?
i dont get this...

Last edited by marauder133; 04-26-2005 at 11:14 AM.
 
Old 04-26-2005, 10:45 PM   #22
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Excellent, showing the output helps a lot ...
looks OK so far:
1. yes, eth0 is UP .. and you can see it has been sending and receiving packets.
2. yes, your router is (should be!) 202.83.32.1 ....

It occurs to me that perhaps you are confusing your internal vs external ip's???
(Your router has a weird address for a private subnet!)
You _should_ be able to ping your router.
Your inability to do so explains why nothing else works!

---Sanity check: are there any lights flashing on your LAN card or router when you
---attempt to ping? (although ifconfig indicates that eth0 is up and running)

---Have you set either your address or the router's address manually?

Perhaps you could try a broadcast ping:
ping 202.83.32.255 (or ping -c 202.83.32.255 on some distros I think)
you _should_ get 2 echos ... 1 from your linux machine, the other from the router.
(as long as your router responds to broadcast IGMP(?) packets on local interface)
((( HINT: check for flashing lights every time you try something ... good for sanity )))
*** Make sure your router address matches the one you've configured. ***

If this doesn't work we'll have to dig deeper!

ps: do _all_ these details match your MSwin config?
I am puzzled as to why you can't ping your dns in win either.
You said: "I cant ping my DNS servers in Windows too. i get Request timed out. But internet connection is OK."
Please elaborate ....
ie. can you ping your router in MSwin?
What is the output of 'route PRINT' in MSwin?

My guess at this stage would be that your modem/router does not have dhcp enabled...
(from your linux results) and/or that the router does not have your isp's dns servers either.
Can you verify this from MSwin? ie. Does your modem have web-based config ability?
 
Old 04-27-2005, 01:56 AM   #23
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route PRINT gave:
Code:
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 50 fc f7 5a 60 ...... VIA VT6105 Rhine III Fast Ethernet Adapter - Pac
ket Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
          0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0      202.83.32.1   202.83.35.121       20
        127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1       1
      202.83.32.0    255.255.248.0    202.83.35.121   202.83.35.121       20
    202.83.35.121  255.255.255.255        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1       20
    202.83.35.255  255.255.255.255    202.83.35.121   202.83.35.121       20
        224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0    202.83.35.121   202.83.35.121       20
  255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255    202.83.35.121   202.83.35.121       1
Default Gateway:       202.83.32.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
  None
ipconfig in Windows gave:
Code:
 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
 Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
 IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.83.35.121
 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 202.83.32.1
 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.88.238.16
 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 202.88.238.3
                                     202.88.238.5
ping 202.88.238.3 gave[in winxP]:
Code:
Pinging 202.88.238.3 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 202.88.238.3:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
[and in linux]
Code:
[root@localhost root]# ping 202.88.238.3
PING 202.88.238.3 (202.88.238.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
<Ctrl-C>
--- 202.88.238.3 ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 12997ms
I cannot broadcast ping , cannot ping router, cannot ping DNSserver, cannot ping even Yahoo's IP 204.71.200.67 (neither in win nor in linux. But i have net access in windows...)

The default settings worked fine in Suse9.1 ...

I havent configured any address manually.
 
Old 04-27-2005, 09:13 AM   #24
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hmmm ... getting frustrated yet?

perhaps you can do a sanity check by pinging yourself?

I have to admit complete ignorance of cable-modems and their setup,
however, it appears from the results you've posted that the modem
is operating as some sort of bridge, rather than a router.
I'm not sure if this is right or wrong, and seeing as your windows
install doesn't seem to work either I have no way of telling.

You have said again that 'But i have net access in windows...'
What do you mean by this?
Web browsing ability? Email? ...etc??? More input required!
How restricted is your network access?
What network dependent applications have you _successfully_ run on this particular network before?

ps.
You said 'The default settings worked fine in Suse9.1 ..'
Still got those settings?

pps.
Got a copy of knoppix lying around?
 
Old 04-27-2005, 11:39 AM   #25
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I have net access in windows!! means i am typing now in this forum connected to internet and i'm in WinXP. i can do anything here... p2p working fine... bittorrent working fine.. limewire, soulseek,emule etc.etc. working. No restrictions at all in windows. Infact i had used all these in linux too as i said in suse. but i dont have suse now. and i never bothered to check those settings as i had no problems... why knoppix?
 
Old 04-27-2005, 10:48 PM   #26
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Knoppix can be a good way of testing things when you think you're going nuts .
If it works, you might also be able to copy the relevant settings over.
 
  


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