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Old 01-15-2005, 07:04 AM   #1
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Problems installing Sarge (netinstaller)

hello there
i got a hp pavilion notebook and i tried installing sarge on it.
the d booted correctly and the installation begun but then sarge said to reboot my mashine to continue configuration. well.... i rebooted, grub started, i choosed linux, linux loaded untill Ieee1394, which i now know has something to do with my firewire card, and just halted. the only thing i can do from there is to reboot by pressing my power button.

can anyone tell me what i can do so that the installation continues? are there any values i can append with grub so that the firewire detection is being left out? or similar? in the bios i cant turn off my frewire card. please help!!!!
Old 01-15-2005, 09:30 AM   #2
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I don't know how to disable a firewire device, but it's probably done in a file in /etc/ (perhaps there is a line in /etc/modules.conf that is loading a firewire-related module at boot time). But you need a running Linux to modify that...

Are you done to Linux shells? You can try starting the Debian instalation to get a Linux with minimal capabilities available and then mount your root filesystem and access the file you need to modify.

You can also use a Linux-Live distro (i.e. Knoppix) that will probably be able to boot and then give you the control to configure what you need.

Hope this was helpful
Old 01-15-2005, 10:18 AM   #3
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hi glalejos,
thx for your reply... i just tried out what you said, i booted with knoppix and opened the modules.conf :

### This file is automatically generated by update-modules"
# Please do not edit this file directly. If you want to change or add
# anything please take a look at the files in /etc/modutils and read
# the manpage for update-modules.
### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/0keep
# This file is not marked as conffile to make sure if you upgrade modutils
# it will be restored in case some modifications have been made.
# The keep command is necessary to prevent insmod and friends from ignoring
# the builtin defaults of a path-statement is encountered. Until all other
# packages use the new `add path'-statement this keep-statement is essential
# to keep your system working

### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/0keep

### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/actions
# Special actions that are needed for some modules

# The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically,
# so do that in here
post-install bttv insmod tuner
post-remove bttv rmmod tuner

### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/actions

### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/aliases
# Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use

# Uncomment the network protocols you don't want loaded:
# alias net-pf-1 off # Unix
# alias net-pf-2 off # IPv4
# alias net-pf-3 off # Amateur Radio AX.25
# alias net-pf-4 off # IPX
# alias net-pf-5 off # DDP / appletalk
# alias net-pf-6 off # Amateur Radio NET/ROM
# alias net-pf-9 off # X.25
# alias net-pf-10 off # IPv6
# alias net-pf-11 off # ROSE / Amateur Radio X.25 PLP
# alias net-pf-19 off # Acorn Econet
alias net-pf-24 pppoe

alias char-major-10-175 agpgart
alias char-major-10-200 tun
alias char-major-81 bttv
alias char-major-108 ppp_generic
alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async
alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

# Crypto modules (see
alias loop-xfer-gen-0 loop_gen
alias loop-xfer-3 loop_fish2
alias loop-xfer-gen-10 loop_gen
alias cipher-2 des
alias cipher-3 fish2
alias cipher-4 blowfish
alias cipher-6 idea
alias cipher-7 serp6f
alias cipher-8 mars6
alias cipher-11 rc62
alias cipher-15 dfc2
alias cipher-16 rijndael
alias cipher-17 rc5

### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/aliases

### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/paths
# This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan,
# beside the ones that are compiled into the modutils tools
# themselves.

### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/paths

### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias char-major-10-144 nvram
alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout
alias char-major-10-135 rtc

### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386

but i dont know what to change!!!! is there anything in here i could possibly change? or... where else should i look for in my sarge distr. apart from modules.conf?

a 1000 thank you's for helping me though
Old 01-15-2005, 12:14 PM   #4
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I have found an article about Firewire devices here, in . It says that to get Firewire devices working, the modules "ohci1394", "raw1394" and "pcilynx" must be loaded.

Perhaps unloading those modules will suffice. You can avoid loading those entries at boot time removing them from "/etc/modules" (sorry, it was "modules", not "modules.conf" ). Well, It would be better to comment them (using #) instead of deleting.

I hope you don't have "discover" or some other tool like that, which will load modules by its hand (otherwise you'll have to find the way to stop it!).

Good luck!
Old 01-15-2005, 01:16 PM   #5
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Hi again... following things i "deselcted" in my modules file:
ide-generic, sbp2, sr_mod.... whatever those are... i left ide-cd the way it was. now the sstem haltz when loading agpgart by dave jones.
i think ive seen some agpgart problems here in the forum but any help by you (and offcourse other) is highly appreiciated.
thanx in advanced
Old 01-15-2005, 01:46 PM   #6
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oh found this help in another thread saying i should change something in my xf86config-4 file.... but... there is no X11 folder!?!?!? shouldn't there be one althought installation is not 100% done? i think im going to throw sarge away and go back to some older debian distr. although i had problems with them too (on my notebook!!!). well but thank you anyway... tomorrow i'll be back with other question... :-)
Old 01-15-2005, 04:30 PM   #7
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Well, the XF86Config-4 usually lies in /etc/X11/XF8Config-4, if not, you can search it with the following command:

$ find / | grep XF86Config-4
Perhaps you got an old version of XFree86, so its configuration file has another name (XF86Config, I gess).

Is this the first time you use Debian?. I know that it's a little hard to configure, but it's worth installing and configuring it; its package management system is really powerful.

I'm sorry, but you'll have to find someone that has dealt before with firewire devices in Debian.

Good luck!


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