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10-31-2021, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by makem
With the ASUS BIOS I am using it is not possible to easily boot from USB. It has a secure boot facility involving keys which I have never come across.
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My non-antique Asus PCs all boot from USB easily via the BIOS BBS key: F8. I have secure boot disabled on all. |
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10-31-2021, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmazda
My non-antique Asus PCs all boot from USB easily via the BIOS BBS key: F8. I have secure boot disabled on all.
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My F8 key brings up the two options available in the BIOS settings and these do not include the Live USB
May I refer you to the question I posted about this:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...-a-4175702894/
I am also checking in the ASUS forums which contain:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ch...dual+boot
I have tried saving all of the variables to USB but still cannot boot from the live USB. |
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10-31-2021, 12:35 PM
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I decided to burn a fresh USB and this time it worked. The BIOS recognised it and booted from it as normal. NO suggestion/query about safe boot.
That takes me back to post #14 suggesting a live USB.
I tried this with two monitors and the 2nd Monitor (HDMI) reported no HDMI signal.
I checked the cable connections.
I think the next step is to determine if the mobo does in fact support two monitors via the integrated GPU.
Last edited by makem; 10-31-2021 at 12:39 PM.
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10-31-2021, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by makem
I think the next step is to determine if the mobo does in fact support two monitors via the integrated GPU.
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I hightly doubt it would not. I have multiple Asus motherboards using IGPs from Intel or AMD, each with 4 video outputs. I also have one from Asrock and one from Gigabyte. The older ones all support two at once. The newer ones, which are now at least 3 years old, support 3 at once. This is from one of the newer, using a lowly Pentium CPU:
Code:
# inxi -CMSy
System:
Host: ab250 Kernel: 5.13.8-1-default x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Trinity R14.0.10 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210810
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B250M-C v: Rev X.0x
serial: 171013077301155 UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1608 date: 10/21/2019
CPU:
Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium G4600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
L2: 3 MiB
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800
4: 800
# inxi -Gay
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:5912 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x3720 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 541x787mm (21.3x31.0")
s-diag: 955mm (37.6")
Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2")
diag: 686mm (27")
Monitor-2: HDMI-2 res: 2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97 size: 673x284mm (26.5x11.2")
diag: 730mm (28.8")
Monitor-3: HDMI-3 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 size: 519x324mm (20.4x12.8")
diag: 612mm (24.1")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2)
v: 4.6 Mesa 21.1.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Are you using the latest available BIOS from Asus? |
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11-01-2021, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmazda
I hightly doubt it would not. I have multiple Asus motherboards using IGPs from Intel or AMD, each with 4 video outputs. I also have one from Asrock and one from Gigabyte. The older ones all support two at once. The newer ones, which are now at least 3 years old, support 3 at once. This is from one of the newer, using a lowly Pentium CPU:
Code:
# inxi -CMSy
System:
Host: ab250 Kernel: 5.13.8-1-default x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Trinity R14.0.10 Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20210810
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B250M-C v: Rev X.0x
serial: 171013077301155 UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1608 date: 10/21/2019
CPU:
Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium G4600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
L2: 3 MiB
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800
4: 800
# inxi -Gay
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:5912 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x3720 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 541x787mm (21.3x31.0")
s-diag: 955mm (37.6")
Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2")
diag: 686mm (27")
Monitor-2: HDMI-2 res: 2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97 size: 673x284mm (26.5x11.2")
diag: 730mm (28.8")
Monitor-3: HDMI-3 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 size: 519x324mm (20.4x12.8")
diag: 612mm (24.1")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2)
v: 4.6 Mesa 21.1.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Are you using the latest available BIOS from Asus? |
I am not because I am using the second from latest and the latest contains nothing except changes for Windows 11
Code:
makem@makems-TUF:~$ inxi -CMSy
System:
Host: makems-TUF Kernel: 5.13.0-051300-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 Distro: Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS WIFI v: Rev 1.xx
serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 0820
date: 04/26/2021
CPU:
Info: 8-Core model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-11700K bits: 64 type: MT MCP
L2 cache: 16 MiB
Speed: 1646 MHz min/max: 800/4900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1646 2: 800
3: 801 4: 801 5: 800 6: 801 7: 801 8: 800 9: 822 10: 801 11: 801 12: 800
13: 801 14: 800 15: 800 16: 801
makem@makems-TUF:~$ inxi -Gay
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 750] vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:4c8a class ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa display ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.0x11.2")
s-diag: 582mm (22.9")
Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 93 size: 527x296mm (20.7x11.7")
diag: 604mm (23.8")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (RKL GT1)
v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.0-devel (git-fad6a80 2021-10-26 focal-oibaf-ppa)
direct render: Yes
makem@makems-TUF:~$
I have not yet completed investigating if the mobo supports two monitor but I tend to think it does. If I connect the second monitor after the OS has booted the second monitor works fine, except for the fact that the desktop is removed from the first monitor and the screens are duplicated. It the duplication is turned off then the desktop remains on the second monitor and the first one is available to the right or left.
This seems to be a software problem and not that the mobo cannot support two monitors.
Last edited by makem; 11-01-2021 at 03:42 AM.
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11-01-2021, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmazda
Have you tried not using the Intel DDX? The Modesetting DIX is generally the display driver recommended by Intel developers for any but antique IGPs.
Have you tried a WM startup script designating the primary display with xrandr?
Have you tried on the kernel command line appending video=HDMI-1:D?
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I don't see an OP reply to any of these questions. |
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11-01-2021, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmazda
I don't see an OP reply to any of these questions.
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Sorry, any of that is beyond my capabilities and having spent weeks working with:
https://github.com/intel-gpu/documentation/issues/14
to finally get the kernel driver loaded and the No Mans Sky game working one one monitor, I was/am loath to make changes with my poor knowledge state.
I don't even know what kernel driver is now loaded but it is working with the latest game Satisfactory. However, No Mans Sky no longer works (black screen).
I have posted an issue in respect of the dual monitor problem:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/4415
I was waiting until Ubuntu 21.04 LTS comes out to see if the issues are corrected. However, if you were able to and have the time to lead me through changes/tests, I would be grateful as you have the knowledge I lack. But, I would understand if you decide I should wait.
I am also waiting for GPU prices to fall to a reasonable level.
PS. I played my first game around the time covid forced us to be recluses for months on end, having never played computer games in the past.
Last edited by makem; 11-01-2021 at 12:34 PM.
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11-01-2021, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by makem
I don't even know what kernel driver is now loaded but it is working with the latest game Satisfactory. However, No Mans Sky no longer works (black screen).
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cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit (if /var/log/Xorg.0.log exists) or (if ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log exists) cat ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit would show us which display driver is in use (intel DDX vs modesetting DIX), and possibly a reason why the game black screens.
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I was waiting until Ubuntu 21.04 LTS comes out to see if the issues are corrected. However, if you were able to and have the time to lead me through changes/tests, I would be grateful as you have the knowledge I lack. But, I would understand if you decide I should wait.
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There never will be any 21.04 LTS. Current (minor) LTS is 20.04.3. Next (major) LTS will be 22.04. Major LTS is released at 24 month intervals.
Those questions I asked in comment 12 are things to try, tests. Xorg.0.log will report whether you are using the DDX or the DIX. This primer gives an overview of the subject of display drivers. Both that may apply to your GT1 UHD Graphics 750 depend on the very same kernel device driver (module).
You can put an executable xrandr script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ in the form xrandr --output <outputname> --primary to designate the correct display to be the primary. The correct <outputname> depends on whether you're using the DDX or DIX driver, and is also reported in the Xorg.0.log.
To test whether video=HDMI-1:D helps, strike the E key at the Grub menu and type it in before proceeding to boot. It doesn't persist this way, meaning it only works for the current boot. This would only work if using the modesetting DIX. If using the intel DDX, then it needs to be video=HDMI1:D. |
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11-01-2021, 04:22 PM
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Thank you for taking an interest but does any of this work if I cannot actually get past the grub not booting?
Could that be down to a driver?
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Rdv7fQrrDp/ |
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11-01-2021, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmazda
To test whether video=HDMI-1:D helps, strike the E key at the Grub menu and type it in before proceeding to boot. It doesn't persist this way, meaning it only works for the current boot. This would only work if using the modesetting DIX. If using the intel DDX, then it needs to be video=HDMI1:D.
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I used video=HDMI-1:D and grub continued but should I have had the second monitor connected?
Edit:
I tried with the second monitor connected and grub hung as it now usually does with both connected.
Last edited by makem; 11-01-2021 at 04:46 PM.
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11-01-2021, 04:54 PM
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I used video=HDMI-1:D and grub continued but should I have had the second monitor connected?
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According to https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt it should enable it regardless whether it's connected, assuming the correct choice (for modesetting DIX reported in use by Xorg.0.log).
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I tried with the second monitor connected and grub hung as it now usually does with both connected.
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What exactly does "grub hung" mean? Was that using video=HDMI-1:D? |
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11-01-2021, 04:59 PM
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Thank you for taking an interest but does any of this work if I cannot actually get past the grub not booting?
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Exactly what does "grub not booting" mean?
There are errors in that log I do not recognize. I recommend you ask the Intel driver developers for help via their mailing list. https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailma...info/intel-gfx |
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11-01-2021, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmazda
According to https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt it should enable it regardless whether it's connected, assuming the correct choice (for modesetting DIX reported in use by Xorg.0.log).
What exactly does "grub hung" mean? Was that using video=HDMI-1:D? |
Yes that was using video=HDMI-1:D
By 'hung' I mean that after choosing ubuntu from the displayed list the system stops and goes no further. The only way to continue is to turn off the second monitor, unplug the HDMI cable and shut down the PC. Then reboot with just one monitor connected.
Edit: I have already posted to:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/4415
Last edited by makem; 11-01-2021 at 05:05 PM.
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11-01-2021, 05:24 PM
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@mrmazda, reading your blog I saw:
"gma500 (kernel) or i915 (kernel) plus intel (DDX) or modesetting (DIX) for Intel GPUs/IGPs"
This would mean I am using i915 (kernel) plus intel modesetting (DIX), correct?
If so, does that point to a reason for a black screen with No Mans Sky and not with Satisfactory?
Last edited by makem; 11-01-2021 at 05:33 PM.
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11-01-2021, 07:31 PM
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does that point to a reason for a black screen with No Mans Sky and not with Satisfactory?
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If might, but I wouldn't likely recognize if it did. Let's see what happens with that bug report you filed. |
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