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Old 12-21-2010, 01:38 PM   #1
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Question PcLinuxOS Xfce 2010 Edition, How to correctly install firmware for Devices(1-3)


Please Refer to my last posting on this thread.

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Old 12-22-2010, 04:06 AM   #2
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Hmm. There is something called "sane" (Scanner Access Now Easy). Is it installed and running?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanner_Access_Now_Easy

or Google for sane.
 
Old 12-22-2010, 07:28 AM   #3
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Hi,

Welcome to LQ!


First thing;

Quote:
As Requested By Menotu, Quote:

“Can I possibly suggest splitting this post into 3 - one for each device as you'll get better help and it will also help others in the future”
Where did you get that quote from Menotu?


Second thing, what have you done to find a solution to the problem? Other than to post here.


We will aid you when you help yourself to a solution. Provide us with what you have attempted and then maybe someone will be able to assist. 



<Linux> - Google will get you possible leads to a solution.

What about LQ
HCL? You did check it out?

I took the liberty of going to
Official SANE website and culled the following links;

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html

http://www.benq.com/


Just a few more useful links;



Linux Documentation Project
Rute Tutorial & Exposition
Linux Command Guide
Linux Newbie Admin Guide
LinuxSelfHelp
Getting Started with Linux



The above links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links'. More than just Slackware® links!

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Old 12-22-2010, 07:42 AM   #4
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@ onebuck

Please use the normal font size. Your posts are hard to decipher or one has to adjust magnification per post...
 
Old 12-22-2010, 07:58 AM   #5
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Hi,

Sorry OP off topic.

@JZL240I-U

What do you see now? In the post that you point out & this one?

I've had some system issues and setting up a new system. I should look at the pages from another system.
 
Old 12-22-2010, 08:05 AM   #6
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Now it is okay and the font size like the OP's and mine. Your first post (#3) is in font size 2. You do that in other threads as well like that abysmal reputation thread ... .
 
Old 12-22-2010, 08:17 AM   #7
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Hi,

I'm on my wife's netbook right now. I did notice that links(objects) from Linux-Google mangled the fonts. Thought I had that ironed out. Plus my sig & body varied. Been awhile using other systems here on LQ. Laid up & had to use my laptop. That baby needed some care, thought it was taken care of. This netbook keybord is small an very hard to type. Remember why I won't have one, my mitts are to big.

Thanks for the heads up.

Sorry OP

<back on topic>
 
Old 12-22-2010, 09:38 AM   #8
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Wink To momentor

Remove this thread

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Old 12-22-2010, 10:14 AM   #9
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Question To OneBuck; Moderator

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Old 12-22-2010, 10:22 AM   #10
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Aslo

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Old 12-22-2010, 10:34 AM   #11
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Hi,


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Sorry, I meant to Address this to the Moderator OneBuck.

1.) I got the quote, when it posted in the wrong section, which I have since corrected. Either this site or PC Linux Forum, can't remember which forum, why does it does it matter? Quote the message, of poster is correct form is it not?
It's good practice to provide a valid/verifiable link for a quote within the body of text or reference. If it's off site then definitely provide a link for good reference.

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2.) I have been reading everything I can on the PC Linux OS I can find, and I will read the attached threads/web links as indicated. And wasted a week trying to get hardware issues resolved in the XFCE forum, which I have recently found out, has nothing to with PC Linux OS at all, just their desktop as an additional option.
We all learn from our mistakes. Your path was detoured abit. I'm sure you learned something!

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3.) I have been trying to find any source of information I can to answer the posted questions for the last three weeks including the PC Linux OS Forum and many others, with no luck. Been to Benq home page, saw no Linux support for their product, been to many sites like drivers dot com with similar results. On the on-line forum link for PC-Linux-OS help room, one member suggested I re-install the firmware for the product through the PC Linux OS control center > Hardware > Manage your hardware > scanner > highlight flatbedscanner40 Click on run cofig tool, select the correct benq scanner which is the 5250 and then it prompts you with a message to install firmware for this device, which I tried using for purchased driver disk in the driver > bin > u55v004.bin and the system politely informs me that I have successfully install my Beng 5250C scanner, but the run config tool is still active and still finds an acer flatbedscanner40 ?? I do not understand what I am doing wrong.
In checking the sane site there is basic support. I do suggest that you try following the site's information.

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4.) I am not asking for additional assistance to get x-scane scanning or any other program to function on my system, yet. I am just trying to get, is a starting point only.

A Complete a basic hardware install, only.
Fair enough & logical to ask but you have been given advice relative to the scanner.

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Before I really start experimenting. For example the of My TVCard, and Modem. If Linux installed them correctly already then I do not have a issue with them, and I can move on. I know it is not a OS problem I am dealing with but an Application program that requires additional tweaking on my part in order to function correctly with that application or as advertised so to speak. And that it is not a baseline PC Linux OS problem that requires to be resolved, in order to get the application to work. But being a Linux newbie who does not know how to determine this by just looking at the out put from the control center hardware, which is why I am asking and hoping to get a expert option to let me know one why or the other.
This should be covered in another thread or threads. It's hard enough handling one issue at times within a thread.
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No expectations just hoping for some assistance, nothing more.
As I said before we'll help you but not carry you. Our members here at LQ are a helpful bunch, that's why we're here.

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I like the PC Linux OS xfce 2010 Edition, so far. And I want to be a full-time Linux user but this is my first steps with any real hands on experience using Linux OS. Been working with computers since my first Atari 800XL, but I went the Microsoft track from DOS up, I still feel like a fish out of water when it comes to Linux. It will take time I accept that, but I would like to have a basic functioning system, to continue to learn with.
Which is why, I am here, and posted what I have.

Sincerely,

tcd1971
Gnu/Linux can cause a new user some frustrations at first. By your above background you seem to be able to handle things when given the proper nudge.

PC Linux is a good Gnu/Linux but I prefer Slackware. I've been using it since the early days of Linux.

BTW, I do appreciate your informational presentations. I do suggest that you learn to use the vbcode tags. The # in the upper right reply is for code and the balloon to left is for quotes. Use of the vbcode tags will make your post cleaner therefore easier to read thus allowing us to better help in diagnosis or assistance.
 
Old 12-22-2010, 10:43 AM   #12
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Hi,

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Now that I have bookmarked the suggested links and have a couple months worth of reading, should I remove all my posting?

Or leave them and wait?

tcd1971
If those threads are valid and you wish assistance. I'll check out and see. Might be a bit later.

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PS
The

"What about LQ HCL? You did check it out?"

http://www.pixellany.com/lin_start.html

Come up as :

Not Found

The requested URL /lin_start.html was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
I've been having some issues with this laptop. The url was mangled. This is correct;
http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/

BTW, You might consider moving around the site a bit to familiarize yourself. HCL is in the LQ bar above.
 
Old 12-23-2010, 04:53 AM   #13
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It is very, very rarely necessary to adapt firmware of a device to get it running under linux. That's why I suggested sane, usually these things have their own diagnostics and can detect hardware (if it is not extremely exotic).

To get a grip on this type the command "lsusb -vv" in a terminal. It will show your devices (including the scanner). This is probably what sane "sees", and if it is there there is no immediate need for a firmware update. Also do a "man lsusb". (There are further programs for hardware detection, depending from your system, try "hwinfo" or google for hardware detection at google.com/linux).
 
Old 12-23-2010, 07:45 AM   #14
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Hi,

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It is very, very rarely necessary to adapt firmware of a device to get it running under linux. That's why I suggested sane, usually these things have their own diagnostics and can detect hardware (if it is not extremely exotic).

To get a grip on this type the command "lsusb -vv" in a terminal. It will show your devices (including the scanner). This is probably what sane "sees", and if it is there there is no immediate need for a firmware update. Also do a "man lsusb". (There are further programs for hardware detection, depending from your system, try "hwinfo" or google for hardware detection at google.com/linux).
Not always true with devices. If your speaking of subsystem then your statement could be taken generally. But if you look at device specific then firmware may be required. Not just scanners, printers or even network devices. Firmware may be needed for the kernel to communicate with a device. Just because you may have a module for a kernel doesn't mean the kernel will be able to work with the device. Sometimes propriety prevents the use of a module for a device, then one must provide a firmware driver to allow functionality via LKM or BinaryBlob. "Loadable kernel modules and firmware" will provide a definition & insight.

If you are speaking of the low level firmware for the device itself then that part is true. But Linux kernel is restricted to use open source equivalents to allow communications thus the need for firmware when propriety distributable firmware is not provided for Linux. That's why some use SANE when scanners are to be interfaced with Linux kernels.

Look at 'Linux Firmware' to get additional information and to see the arguments presented concerning propriety firmware & GPL/Gnu firmware. Pick one of many!

BTW, this topic is a mess & very argumentative for some. Darn M$ has a headlock on too many vendors.

 
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