If you are a little programming C then I would recommend monsterwm, I had fun customizing the code, creating new functions, new layouts, etc. It is a tiling window manager which supports floating windows pretty well, too. It has rules to make programs start on a specific desktop and run them full screen or floating.

If you prefer floating wm then you should try pekwm, it is the most 'themable' wm I’ve ever tried. Just Google for screenshots and you will have an idea of what i mean.

Good luck with your choice and have fun!

One thing I like about the WMs is that they often have good enough keybinds so that I can move my windows around without much fuss. The other thing is probably lower memory use. Even though my current machines have more RAM than ever before I'm bound to always want more for my web browser.

One of the things I like about the DEs is that things tend to "just work", like: the buttons on my keyboard especially the volume controls, specific programs open consistently, the laptop suspends or hibernates when I shut the lid, and just general consistency from a system built for one set of programs. Maybe someday we'll get the fully functional desktop without dedicating ~1 GB to it, but that doesn't seem to be today.

I've only really started using less common keyboard shortcuts recently. The common ones, that usually work on every WM/DE/OS, are always good to know. Any time a mouse stops working, people I work with can't use a computer.

On a side note: I hate how many keyboards now require the use of the function key (FN) to use the other function keys (F1-F12), instead of the special functions such as volume, search, etc...

i remember a time while still on windows when my mouse stopped working and i had to get around with keyboard only, for a long time.
learned some invaluable stuff then!
and it always makes me chuckle when somebody enters data on a web form, then the right hand leaves the keyboard, fumbles for the mouse, moves the pointer to the friendly OK button and double-clicks it (this usually takes several attempts) and i'm getting a sore forehead from facepalming (why don't you just press Enter?)... these are often professionals, i.e. they do this 8h a day for a living...



openbox has a few that can place windows e.g. 50% width, full height, left/right edge of screen.
is this possible with fluxbox, without wmctrl?

PS:
Hapy new year!
White wine and Blue cheese for everyone!

You may laugh at this then, but I guess it's from using the keyboard a lot in OB and various dialogs, even on web forms I press [ Tab ] [ Space ] to submit the form.

After looking at a couple documents, it does appear that Fluxbox has keybindings to resize windows to a fixed percentage, or a relative percentage, both horizontally and/or vertically. And there is keybindings to move windows to an edge of screen (anchor), fixed coordinates and relative coordinates. It's also possible to combine multiple actions to a single keybinding.

http://fluxbox.org/help/man-fluxbox-keys.php
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617812


PS:
Blue cheese (puke)

Former user of Icewm, then Fluxbox and having also tried many others including Twm, Blackbox and Windowmaker I installed Fvwm 2.6.7 a few weeks ago and adopted it. It is by far the best of all WMs I have ever tried. Fully ICCCM compliant and with all EWMH added features, the default config is now fully usable but everything can still be configured and tweaked at will. It has also a decent xdg compliant root menu. No builtin tray but will automatically use stalonetray if installed. What else?

I haven't used FVWM regularly since I had it on my iBook G4 which finally died about 3 or 4 years ago. It's nice to see an old hand keeping up with the times like this.

aah, thanks for the heads-up!
unfortunately these things aren't configured by default on an openbox install, either, although some distros (bunsenlabs!) have it configured.
you wouldn't happen to know of a fluxbox-centric distro that has clever defaults for this?

The last distro with Fluxbox I remember using was Damn Small Linux. Not sure what was configured by default though.

I have not used a "fluxbox-centric distro" is some years, other than VSIDO. I always install the default, then load and configure fluxbox (preferably over TinyX rather than full XOrg) and adjust the 'default' settings to suit my preferences. I would have to do a search on distrowatch to even find one.

VSIDO is somewhat cutting-edge Debian SID based and runs fluxbox. It performs well, but (as with anything sid based) can sometimes break during an upgrade or update. I like it a lot, but I am not sure if it would suit you.

thanks, but i am not looking for a new distro, just for a good fluxbox default config.
i will try vsido in a vm.

You could always experiment with the Fluxbox keys file. You would only need to "Reconfigure" Fluxbox for the changes to take place. Not sure if Openbox is the same way. I have the Reconfigure option bound to 'Mod4 r'. I could type in a new key combo into Leafpad, hit ctrl+s to save, winkey+r to Reconfigure, and then instantly try the new key combo.

There are a couple threads you could get ideas from:
http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=2113
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-yours-494408/

You can do the same with OB, I have it bound to Alt-Super-R to avoid accidental presses.


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