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Old 12-01-2015, 04:56 PM   #1
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Welcome to Linux: The Stone Age OS


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Very interesting article;
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Welcome to Linux: The Stone Age OS

Ken Starks
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” –R. Buckminster Fuller

Let’s talk about the future, as understood by today’s children who will ultimately shape that future.
In the course of a normal day, for every adult with whom I speak, there are two kids who add to the day’s conversations. Sometimes they are 17 year’s old, sometimes they are anywhere from 9-12. Regardless of the “sometimes,” one thing remains a constant: These kids will shape the world in which they live, equaling and surpassing the accomplishments of their fathers or even their grandfathers, those fearful but heroic men who faced withering gunfire and certain death on foreign beaches, men who prematurely ended the Third Reich to insure those after them would not have to, and men who died so those approaching the land could advance.
 
Old 12-01-2015, 07:00 PM   #2
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The 3rd comment by 'Mike' made me laugh, but is also a good summary
 
Old 12-02-2015, 01:36 AM   #3
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http://fossforce.com/2015/12/welcome.../#more-1567284

We contacted Microsoft often, asking them to donate a few licenses for our nonprofit use, but not once did anyone from Redmond have the courtesy of returning our calls or letters, even though some letters were sent certified mail. Microsoft is big on talking about building sustaining communities as long as the cameras are rolling.
 
Old 12-02-2015, 05:30 AM   #4
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the basic requirements of the Operating System haven't changed much since the early days of System/360 and UNIX: to provide and to regulate the services needed by the application programs: I/O, memory, file permissions

in today's networked world this is perforce extended to authentications and encryption but these later requirements still need more work integrating them such that folks can use them routinely as they do the other service of the operating software -- without generally needing to be cognizant of the activity of the operating software but rather interacting with their applications and letting the applications interact with the operating software

back in the '80s a lot of "personal" computers were sold with bare bones monitor systems rather than actual operating software . and developers got used to the idea they were permitted to modify those monitors to facilitate what they wanted in their application programs . those days are gone but, as ever, we have our dissidents .

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Old 12-02-2015, 09:39 AM   #5
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An awful lot of very tall and impressive buildings in this world are built upon foundations of . . . stone.
 
Old 12-02-2015, 10:08 AM   #6
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I posted the link for the article by Ken Starks to show how other Linux users are integrating into society the use of Gnu/Linux. The kids that receive a system from that program will have a head up on others that follow a propriety based system.

I would love to see our school system get into use of Gnu/Linux & open source software. Licenses for MS are a big burden, even with discounts it is a budgetary load. Closed minded administrators feels MS is the way since that is what they use and see multitude of others.

The Linux Desktop has made great advances over the years and is a doable viable program for academia. Look at University programs that use Gnu/Linux within their programs. Sure, most are technical such as Engineering but that should open eyes to the validity of Gnu/Linux usage. Let alone the budget loads. Sure training costs will need to be posted but once trained then there should be nothing to load the budget. MS requires knowledge to utilize so some training is required there.

Major manufactures/employers do use Linux so why not open that box for supplying trained Linux people to them?
 
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:21 AM   #7
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I live in WA - too close to Redmond. Been trying to get kids interested in Linux for years. Even on the Rez, people shy away from the unfamiliar. One girl was getting good but peer pressure took her back to the dominant OS. I suppose I'll have to content myself with just having made kids and others aware that an alternative exists.
 
Old 12-02-2015, 11:48 AM   #8
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Good ideas!

All the creativity that comes from life (especially kids,) why $ign it over by default rather than share?

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Old 12-02-2015, 11:58 AM   #9
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Yes, some relate/succumb too much to criticism. Most kids today worry too much about what others say to or about them. Social media is to blame for part of this but to raise your children to have self respect and willing to stand on their own is one way to help them with today's opinionated society.

My grandchildren have to be online all the time. When they visit or share a meal with us that is the rule to put the devices away and visit with us. Boy, you can see their dismiss but we both stand strong on this. Grandma & Grandpa love them and want to spend time with them, not intermediate with their friends. I tell the kids to call me if they wish to communicate and not to text me since I do not text. No social media for me, never been on Facebook, Twitter or any other social site. No need, people who know me will call me.

Too bad some people can still be pressured by peers to do things.

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@onebuck: I don't think that means what you think it does http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/demise?s=t, at least I hope not
 
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Strange ... I've never "switched." Whatever environment the client has, I make it a point to have one, too. Lately, VM technology has helped a lot, but I still have, almost within arm's reach, a couple of Windows boxes, a Linux box, and my trusty OS/X machines.

We should emphasize: there's more than one, period. Even within a single company, you can easily find all three. You'll find that each type of system "has a certain 'slant,'" and certain "killer apps" that have never been ported to something else. Given that good computer equipment isn't expensive anymore (have you visited Goodwill, lately?!), it is practical to learn the systems side-by-side, and I think that's a very good thing to do.

Certainly there's no room for "peer pressure." An operating system is a tool, and 90% of the time it hums away underneath the hood and you never lift that hood. Which is exactly the way it should be.

(In the case of Windows, you do have to periodically replace the hood, however. It gets very badly dented by flying pistons ... and stained by the oily smoke ...)
 
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@onebuck: I don't think that means what you think it does http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/demise?s=t, at least I hope not
Thanks! I misused the word and actually meant dismiss. Corrected!
 
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er ... dismay(?)
Sorry for the apparent pedantry
 
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er ... dismay(?)
Sorry for the apparent pedantry
No problem! I had a misspell and did a correction and did not realize the substitution. Better use would be 'rejection' but I just did not check fully. Lazy?? No harm done.

Again thanks for the heads up.
 
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Having been to Austin Texas numerous times.
Today I have to baby sit the pets while the wife heads down there this week end.

They have a more progressive mind set there. Just my personal opinion.
Met lots of young smart cookies there because my youngest boy settled there and has a lot of friends.

They build bicycles for the under privileged. Have one of the best Goodwill Computer outlet stores I have ever cruised in. I suffered from
information/sight over load every time I go down there.

It is a nice city for progressive thinkers. Has a hell of a LUG also.

Edit: Haters and Trolls will hate. I just take in the source of the outbursts. If out of arms reach. I ignore it.

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