I have reinstalled mdk 8.2 on a new disk with KDE 3.01. I am locked out of the floppy and the cdrom.

As su or a user I get the message

" you do not have permission etc..." This happens from all the file managers and consoles.

The last time this happened I had to wipe everything and reinstall to a clean disk, no one could suggest a working solution. Is mdk 8.2 really as buggy as I think?

hi
What does your /etc/fstab say; maybe dump it here.
And what security level did you choose, setting it
too secure can set certain permissions too restricted.
Can you as root;
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom ? instead of
using the supermount thingy.
regards

/etc/fstab does not exist, I've already looked and do not understand why.
I accepted the standard security level as proposed during the installation.
"mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom" gives "/dev/cdrom does not exist"
I do not like the sound of this...

Here's the relevant line from mount:
"/mnt/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/scd0, fs=iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-15"

I am going to try to umount /mnt/cdrom and remount it to /dev/scd0, what do you think?

does not exist weird

Never heard of; what do you see if you type; mount
my /dev/cdrom is a symlink to cdroms/cdrom0

--ah you are editting the message whilst i typed this--

erm maybe fire up mcc as root
choose( what i think is) mountpoints, 3rd option, mine
talks dutch, see what your flop and cdrom/dvd
brings up.

Maybe you dismissed a service / daemon that you need,
just activate some and see if that helps, like your devfsd
regards

Floppy seems to work, I think...

Here's the relevant line from mount:
"/mnt/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/scd0, fs=iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-15"

I am going to try to umount /mnt/cdrom and remount it to /dev/scd0, what do you think?

my two entries for both cdroms one is a dvd second is a
burner in my /etc/fstab
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859
-15 0 0
/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8
859-15 0 0

do you have a scsi cdrom ? or an ide

regards

It's an IDE burner that is (I think) mounted as scsi for burning.
Anyway, I do not have a /etc/fstab file...

I use my burner with scsi emulation and that is taken care
of by /etc/modules.conf ;
probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi

and /etc/lilo.conf;
append="quiet mem=nopentium hda=noprobe hdb=noprobe devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi"

the hdd=ide-scsi thing

and the missing /etc/fstab, i can't believe it isn't there your
machine needs it to mount its partitions also.
If you do a slocate or find on it, what does it say.
And does the mcc let you change the entries

For some extra reading on mounting in mandrake
check;
http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/admin/index.html#m

checking my bed's hardware for now, so good night

If it helps, here's my fstab (found):

/dev/hde1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hde7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdd,fs=auto,--,defaults 0 0
/mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/dev/hda5 /mnt/win_ vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hde6 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hde5 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0

whccat's interesting here i s the last line which indicates a partition that does not exist!

Here's another brainstormer:
cdrecord -scanbus finds no device! I know that IDE burners are mounted as scsi!!!

Also each time I quit a terminal I get "KDEInit cannot launch Konsole-noxft)

I'm able to read cd's now but the burner does not work.
No scsi device seems to be present, emulation is enabled.

Ok, lets do the last one first; check if
/usr/bin/konsole-noxft exist (i have kde 2.2 installed)
and if so what permissions, do; ls -s /usr/bin/konsole-noxft

for checking your cdrom and scsi emu; (assuming your hdd
is your only cdrom and burner like /etc/fstab shows
check;
dmesg|less ; should show your ide_setup: hdd= ide-scsi
if not check your lilo.conf append="blabla" or pass this option to the kernel at boottime
read under SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
there should be your burner info displayed

cat /proc/scsi/scsi ; that should return your burner
do lsmod; see what shows up (like ide-scsi and scsi_mod)
maybe need to do; modprobe ide-scsi
my entry for the burner in /etc/fstab
/mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0
so maybe back up your fstab and make changes or use the
mcc command for a gui
seems like the mdk install messed up a bit ?
and you have a bootflop in case of...
hope this helps

Here goes with some results before donig a revision of my sleeping hardware...

a 4 precedes the path to noxft:
The cd r/w drive is identified correctly as hdd:
scsi subsystem driver indicates - scsi0: scsi emulation for ide etc, but no other info on my burner:
cat /proc/scsi/scsi gives : attached devices = none
lsmod gives : ide-scsi loaded, not used:
scsi_mod : loaded and used by ide-scsi:
modprobe ide-scsi : gives no answer or reaction except another command line prompt.

I'm still a bit stuck, thanks for the help up to now, but tomorrow's another day ;-)