Ubuntu Based Rolling Release Planned!

linuxPCplus · 02-18-2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD

No, other distros do it not that way. All the distros you mentioned build their packages on the same stable base. If you have a stable and a rolling release branch of your distro (or, as you mentioned earlier, for example Ubuntu's current release and the future version) you have two different base systems, with different versions of software. Mixing those two repos will break the system and using a GUI instead of editing a text file will not prevent that.

I don't want to discourage you and this may be sound hard, but I think that your project in the current state is doomed. While you can imagine how your distro should be, you seem to lack the knowledge to filter out which parts of your imagination are viable and which not, especially with limited manpower. Open source developers may be able to do great things, but the problem here is that you are not a developer, you are a manager. You can imagine things, but if they are viable is beyond your current knowledge.
Before going further I would recommend to get more knowledge about this topic. Try to go through LFS one time, so that you can see what actually happens under the hood of a Linux system. Go ahead and mix some packages of the Ubuntu testing branch into the current stable branch and see what happens and where the difficulties with that really are. Then go through your vision again and test it against your new knowledge. Become at least a little bit of a developer, planning a distro is a job for developers, not managers.

The truth is, I agree. I can admit that you are right. I am learning as this discussion unfolds that while this is a nice dream, making it reality will be a major challenge. Do I still think that some version of this dream is possible? Hell yes! But unless I learn more about the system, this project cannot succeed.

Just to let ya know, I am not "all talk". I am actually returning to school on March 18 to finish my Netwrok System Administration degree and I still studying for the LPIC level 1 exams. So yes, I AM educating myself & making the effort to "expand my mind" so I can be less a manager & more a contributor.

Some of you may have looked at my website & noticed that I do offer Linux tech support services. I just want to point out that I do not personally provide these services, I have employees who do all of the support & I require my support agents to be either CompTia or LPIC certified. I only point this out because I realize this discussion may have created some concerns about my tech services being qualified.

I am shelving this idea for te time being. Once I have gained the appropriate knowledge & skills, I will revisit it. Thank you to EVERYBODY who gave me constructive criticism & advice. While I did not like all that I heard, I recognize it was never a personal attack, but just frank honesty which I truly appreciate!

unSpawn · 02-18-2013, 08:30 AM

IMHO there are more fundamental flaws which go for a lot of "distributions" out there. One is the idea that taking an original distribution and "making it better" is somehow a Good Idea. Related to that is the idea that it is OK for this new "distribution" to defy Laws of Nature and to do so without consequence, somehow showing progress without gradual, natural evolution. IMHO that is a move away from core values associated with traditional craftsmanship and a dismissal of the fact that maturation takes time and effort. Over-cultivation, prostitution of any resources and lack of original creativity will reveal themselves in time always. Phrased differently: if one asserts Linux is a healthy ecology then it should show signs of true biodiversity. For a reason. You shelving the idea shows that. Well done.

linuxPCplus · 02-18-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by unSpawn

IMHO there are more fundamental flaws which go for a lot of "distributions" out there. One is the idea that taking an original distribution and "making it better" is somehow a Good Idea. Related to that is the idea that it is OK for this new "distribution" to defy Laws of Nature and to do so without consequence, somehow showing progress without gradual, natural evolution. IMHO that is a move away from core values associated with traditional craftsmanship and a dismissal of the fact that maturation takes time and effort. Over-cultivation, prostitution of any resources and lack of original creativity will reveal themselves in time always. Phrased differently: if one asserts Linux is a healthy ecology then it should show signs of true biodiversity. For a reason. You shelving the idea shows that. Well done.

LMAO! Thanks (I think)! IF I ever create a Linux distro (or at least help one be created) I want it to be successful. I do not want folks to feel it is just aother distro to add to the bottom of the already long & growing list. It will need to be a distro that appeals, that makes a difference, & give tru measurable benefits to its users.

I think completeing my education (both formal & informal) will be the key to making this vision a reality!