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Old 08-31-2003, 04:57 PM   #1
SiZaint
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Gentoo...


I tryed for about..... 4 hours or so yesterday trying to install gentoo, i thought everything was going great but when it came to installing the boot loader and trying to figure all that out i must have messed up some where...... =.= but any ways.. the resone i was trying to install gentoo was because i heard it was alot easyer to install things "no having to try and find depedancies for .rpm's" so my question is.. are there any other linux distro's that dont have to deal with all the problems with RPMS (AND) is easy to install?

Thanks,
 
Old 08-31-2003, 05:00 PM   #2
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Sure are:
www.xandros.com (Debian)
www.vectorlinux.com (Slackware)
And a lot more:
www.distrowatch.com

Moving to Linux - Distributions

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Old 08-31-2003, 05:02 PM   #3
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well the thing is, that will solve your rpm dependancy hell is apt-get...when you use apt-get to install stuff that require alot of dependancies then it will take care of them for you, for you won't have to do it manually, so if you went and got apt-get and we'll use mplayer for an example and if you typed in terminal ::
apt-get install mplayer
it will download all dependancies plus mplayer and install it for you...so you can go use any rpm distro you like may it be redhat, mandrake, etc, etc....and which are very easy to install....
 
Old 08-31-2003, 06:05 PM   #4
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i think mandrake uses urpmi (though maybe it can use apt-get, too?) but if you're having trouble installing gentoo, i'd stay away from debian. go mandrake, or redhat with apt-get (the only thing i miss since switching to slackware).
 
Old 08-31-2003, 06:12 PM   #5
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well what problems are you having with gentoo? if you follow the simple guide step by step, there's really no need to get anything wrong....
 
Old 08-31-2003, 06:35 PM   #6
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I cant believe no one has told you to use Debian yet.

Debian

It does not use RPM, plus you will never have to find another dependency thanks to apt.
 
Old 08-31-2003, 06:37 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by acid_kewpie
if you follow the simple guide step by step, there's really no need to get anything wrong....
That installation guide is pretty poor.

It's only passable if nothing at all goes wrong along the way. I don't think its authors have heard of "troubleshooting"
 
Old 08-31-2003, 06:44 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlCKB0Y
I cant believe no one has told you to use Debian yet.

Debian

It does not use RPM, plus you will never have to find another dependency thanks to apt.
The user wanted an easy install though, I don't think anyone who uses Debian would say that the installer is easy... I know even now that I'd certainly not think so...

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Old 08-31-2003, 06:49 PM   #9
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I am using RH 9 and use apt/syaptic and I no problems. Easy to use and easy to install also.

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Old 08-31-2003, 11:04 PM   #10
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i tryed apt-get and it has an error about kde-bade i think cos i did:

rpm -i --force to update kde whoops, and i tryed compiling mplayer from source that didnt work the rpm needed depedincies and apt-get does not want to work, im so frustrated.. ugg.. im thinking of trying mandrake or shooting someone , we will see
 
Old 08-31-2003, 11:46 PM   #11
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Of the 2, I think Mandrake is a better choice Shooting someone is always a bad one, it's like choosing win 3.1, only worse

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Old 09-01-2003, 01:19 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by MasterC
Of the 2, I think Mandrake is a better choice Shooting someone is always a bad one, it's like choosing win 3.1, only worse

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worse than 3.1? we must be getting into windows ME territory then.

yes, troubleshooting is definitely preferable to person shooting. did apt install without any errors, or what errors are you getting when you say it doesn't want to work?
 
Old 09-01-2003, 01:40 AM   #13
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I followed the install giude for Gentoo myself.. word for word. Both at gentoo.org and the one on the CD's. Some had typos. (sometimes I did the typo-ing ) but there seemed to be something missing when I went to install using the gaming-soruce and GRP.

I have since given up. (for now anyways.) Need some time to cool down
 
Old 09-01-2003, 05:48 PM   #14
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slackware wit swaret
 
Old 09-01-2003, 05:57 PM   #15
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I understand there are still some problems with the grp.

I used the stage1 rc4 tarball and in a couple of days, fluxbox and all my wanted goodies were purring along.

I think they have outstanding documentation, myself as I have learned at least 85 percent of my Linux knowledge installing it.

My proceedure after extracting the tarball:

mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile
cd /usr/portage
scripts/bootstrap.sh
emerge rsync
<edit /etc/make.conf>
emerge system
ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern /etc/localtime
emerge -u ppp wvdial gaming-sources gentoo sysklogd dcron reiserfsprogs mc links fluxbox
rc-update add sysklogd default
crontab /etc/crontab
rc-update add dcron default
rc-update add gpm default
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig

I compiled the kernel a few times till I got it right, edited the other config files, rebooted and enjoyed my first Gentoo experience.

Last edited by fancypiper; 09-01-2003 at 06:00 PM.
 
  


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