kinda full of yourself aren't ya?


I left windows for GNU/Linux originally because of a computer that wouldn't run on anything else and a few years later any computer I own will not run on anything else.

Hello

We can not never separate from MS Windows at complete 100% NEVER.

Just because MS is a giant of the Market, but is not a rason to Use Windows in your real life, If you use Windows its fine, because works for you, but if you ever and ever kick your monitor in a CRASH BLUE SCREEN, and ever angry with a VIRUS, and ever has a bad face when use Window; Its very bad you still using Windows instead other options like GNU/Linux Systems.

If you are very very new in Linux Try To download an install a Linux Distro like openSuse or Fedora.

>> "We can not never separate from MS Windows at complete 100% NEVER."

come to think about this further ...

it depends on how often we use linux or windows ...

i always suspect that if i use windows for more that lets say 70 or 80 % of the time when i use my computer then i think i dont actually need linux at all ... makes no sense in having linux on my machines for any long stretch of time anyway ... probably excluding those professionals((i think) who still need windows for some windows only apps ... but then linux for them will be only useful as a system for web sufing , emailing and sticky notes for them because of the merits and advantages of security system that comes with linux by "default" ...

but on the other hand ... if i use windows only for lets say 5% of the time when i use my computer then i think i dont actually need windows at all ... makes no sense in having windows on my machines for any long stretch of time anyway ...

in the end i think all of these boils down to what you would like to purchase in-order to enrich(or so to speak) your life , especially all those little gadgets and larger appliances(moving or non-moving) that you believe you simply cant do without when coupling them with your computers ...


//ok , lets answer the call ...

//btw , i have been relatively windows free for a long time and right now 100% linux for about 6 months or so , probably i'm more suited to this kind of setup ... ^_^


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I've been running Linux at home for seven years now because I was fed up of how unreliable Windows was (is?) and am at the stage now where I only touch Windows when I have to use my work laptop. I think Linux has come on so much, especially in the last year or two, that I got to the stage yesterday where I have finally put Linux on a total non-techy's computer.

Over the years, she has had me in to sort out various problems with Windows falling over and I've spent ages sorting out problems for her. We all went out for some beers on Sunday and she got me to have a look at her PC because IE7 had disappeared. I couldn't see what on earth had happened to it and when she started talking about lots of virus and trojan problems she's been having (and how much does Norton slow down a Windows machine, eh?) I decided I'd had enough!

When I ascertained she only uses her PC for mails and surfing I told her I'd put Linux on and she could dual boot. So, I resized her drive to get some free space, stuck on Mandriva (my distro of choice) and got her going. I've managed to get all her Outlook files into Thunderbird, shown her how to use Firefox, proven that we can gets pics off her digital phone using the USB interface, put on Acrobat and shown her gimp, Kuickshow etc. She's happy and actually very impressed with it. I'll be very interested to see how she gets on with it, because, believe me, if she can deal with Linux - anyone can!

I'm really quite excited because I really do think Linux is about ready for the masses who just want to surf, mail and write some word processor files now.

He might have meant "aspiring".

You see I say:

My parents fit that category. My dad has a few financial software packages that he runs that are Windows-specific (and GNU Cash, while nice, just wasn't "intuitive" for him), but other than 1-2 software titles he's not tied to any specific OS.

Anyhow, the other day he came over to my apartment and saw WinXP running on my Gentoo box (QEMU). He was pretty impressed with it, and immediately suggested I could do the same for his machine (he is quite open minded to open source since asking me a year ago to help him with network security...I built him an OpenBSD pf machine with reasonably strict rules, and he hasn't had a problem since). I think I'll set him up with Ubuntu/Fedora/Sabayon, cron some maintenance tasks, and set him loose with a virtual WinXP install for those programs he just can't do without...

I assume you mean can not ever, rather than not never?

If that's what you're trying to say, I would dispute it. Once I have exchanged my Sony MP3 player for a Cowon one I have my eye on, I will not need Windows at all for personal stuff. (I have to have a work laptop which I only ever use on the rare occasions I have to be in the office.) I even have my old DOS CAD system working on Linux under an emulator now. However, we're working on setting up our own company which will be totally Linux based, so even my work life will me MS free soon.

There will be quite a few people for a while who need software specific to Windows, but it's amazing how many Linux programs there are now to do the equivalent of Windows applications. I think gamers have a real problem in that respect for example.

>> "We can not never separate from MS Windows at complete 100% NEVER."

after some reading ... i think it says we always cant seperate ourselves away from windows systems ... and we cant continuing to be like that ... we need to have a clean break away from that sorry state ...


//but i'm not sure about the need to stress that again ...


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Agreed. I've worked for a company that has integrated Linux and Windows servers for quite some time, and within the last 6 months they've done quite a bit of research into going one way or the other...

Thankfully, they've decided to go pure open source...drop Windows, pick up PostgreSQL to replace SQL Server, and keep the Apache/Linux systems "as-is". This is really good news, considering how much of a headache IIS has been and the performance gains that can be had with PostgreSQL.

That, and well, I've never cared for Microsoft =)

I'm having a little dificulty parsing that? Could someone rephrase it.
I'm getting:
And I'm too tired to do that...

The biggest problem I have with Windows is that it limits you to what you can do in order to protect your system or something stupid like that. A good example is it won't let you have a certain number of users without forcing you to add extra administrator accounts. That is just plain stupid.

Linux lets you do whatever you want to do. If what you're doing can potentially screw up the system then it does it anyway because it was told to. For me, this makes Linux much more usable than Windows because I'm always doing something strange that could potentially result in killing my system

I've never understood why Win XP has a special 'Administrator' account, which is used to set up the first user account, and then is then locked down under an account restriction.

Thus forcing at least one user to be running as Admin. (Although, this is Home Edition, and I've never had the chance to fiddle with it from a new install to see if I can avoid this, but I doubt it.)

The only way it ever shows up (apart from password cracking^w recovery tools) is when the Pc is in safe mode.
(Is this a forced default, or the annoying way the PC is set up?)

I just spent more than half an hour configuring my wife's new Vista box so it can play back AVI files. First, Windows Media Player would not play AVI files. I googled around and found a few sites where you can download the necessary codec. Now each page I go to, Vista "warns me" if I really want to run Flash. On one of the sites, I saw the warning dialog more than 10 times. Way too much.

I finally found the page that actually had the right codec file. As I downloaded and installed the file, I had to click "Yes" God knows how many times just to keep the process going. Once the codec was installed, the machine had to be restarted. Nice.

All that commotion compared with my Fedora Core 6, which requires nothing extra to play AVI files...

I just don't see any place for "an either-or choice." That's just not the nature of the decision.

Let's say that you just picked up an iPhone. Okay, to you, that's a sexy new phone that makes you the utter and complete envy of all of your friends. To your geek-friend who's an engineer, it's a computer that runs OS/X (Unix). Whose opinion prevails?

Answer: yours. "It's a helluva phone."

You don't buy a piece of electronic equipment to stare at it. (Well, unless it's an iPhone... ) You buy it to use it for some purpose. And all of the software that enables it to serve that purpose is, really, secondary to the purpose that it serves. It is perfectly, perfectly reasonable to purchase a Windows-based machine, or an OS/X machine, or a what-have-you machine, just because that machine when so-equipped serves a particular need. You don't have to apologize.

Now, I absolutely do believe that you'd be an utter fool if you don't pay very-close attention to Unix and Linux, because in case you have not noticed, neither your iPhone nor your present cellular telephone runs Microsoft Windows. But they [probably] do run some flavor of Linux/Unix. As the hardware platforms continue to shrink and to diversify, Windows is becoming "the odd man out."

Don't "get caught off-base." In this business, it is not a pleasant place to be...