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Old 06-07-2022, 02:47 PM   #16
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Old 06-07-2022, 07:21 PM   #17
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Russia is not "the Soviets."
That's like saying Linux is not Unix. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

Technically correct, but practically and in any way that matters - wrong.
 
Old 06-07-2022, 08:50 PM   #18
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The global situation regarding Ukraine is actually very old, and far more familiar to Europeans than to meddling Americans.

If you want to know more about the actual circumstances ... which literally date back to "the grandson of Genghis Kahn" ... please check out thepostil.com. An online imprint of St. Augustine Press, this website will give you a scholarly perspective, presented by authors having impeccable military/diplomatic and academic credentials.

But, fair warning: the articles here are neither short nor easy. If you "visit" here, prepare to spend at least more than an hour. And, expect to be challenged.. But by history, not politics.

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Old 06-08-2022, 12:01 AM   #19
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One would have thought that Germany, a large chunk of which was occupied by the Soviets within living memory, would have been more suspicious of a Russia led by a man who was in the KGB when it was murdering east Germans. But the SPD do have a track record of appeasement.
While that Spiegel article definitely criticizes the SPD's chancellor, this is not the picture it paints.
Germany is very suspicioius of Russia, in fact it stands fully with other countries that take the same stance. Its reluctance to send weaponry has other reasons. Not saying they are better reasons, but what you say does not hit the nail on the head.
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sundialsvcs has been peddling that site at least half a dozen times now in various threads.
Whether it's his own or not, this is bordering on spam.

Moreover, the site in question is fringe conservative christian, if not far-right.
Cleverly mixing more acceptable views with titles like "Democracy: The Failure of a System become Religion", "God's Battalions - The Case for the Crusaders", "Witches Feminism and the Fall of the West", "Debunking Centuries of Anti-Catholic History", "Sex Differences in Intelligence" etc.

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The mission of The Postil Magazine is to recoup a fading vision of humanity, namely, Classical Humanism, rooted in faith and reason. In other words, we work for the return of Christendom.
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In effect, there can be no humanity without God.
TBH, I think they also drive ultra-conservative US party politics, in clever disguise. Slightly more intelligent than your average Tucker Carlson.
 
Old 06-08-2022, 05:51 AM   #20
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Even Merkel, herself, mentioned in an interview on Tuesday she just does not care, about trying harder for Ukraine. Selfish, no?
 
Old 06-08-2022, 09:53 AM   #21
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I am not "spamming" nor promoting any web site. I simply refer to this one as a good source of "meaty" information that you simply will not get from the MSM.

Eastern Europe is very different from the West, and it has been a battleground for centuries. There are reasons for everything that is now happening in Ukraine, but they're not being presented to you fairly. However the information is out there if you know where to look ... and you need to look. All world events, especially violent ones, happen in and because of a certain surrounding context, and you need to inform yourself of what that context is. The Internet is still the greatest research tool that has ever existed.

You also may not yet appreciate the importance of Poland, and of what her long-term territorial ambitions might be or soon become. There was a reason why Adolf Hitler began WW2 with an invasion of that particular country. Border lines throughout the area are not where they used to be.

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Old 06-08-2022, 12:10 PM   #22
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Even Merkel, herself, mentioned in an interview on Tuesday she just does not care, about trying harder for Ukraine. Selfish, no?
Cannot confirm.
Again: sources and exact quotes - in context - please.

Edit: did you just say that the retired ex-chancelor Angela Merkel doesn't care about current politics anymore? I'm shocked!
Even so, sources and context still required.

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Old 06-08-2022, 02:39 PM   #23
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Cannot confirm.
Again: sources and exact quotes - in context - please.

Edit: did you just say that the retired ex-chancelor Angela Merkel doesn't care about current politics anymore? I'm shocked!
Even so, sources and context still required.
If they are invaded by Russia, countries will of course help Germany. They would have higher chance.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2022-06-07/
 
Old 06-08-2022, 11:32 PM   #24
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Well finally you provide some sources.
Now compare your statement to what the article states:
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Even Merkel, herself, mentioned in an interview on Tuesday she just does not care, about trying harder for Ukraine. Selfish, no?
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Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Tuesday that she tried hard when she was in office to prevent the situation in Ukraine from developing to the current state, adding that she does not blame herself for not trying hard enough.
Paints rather a different picture, wouldn't you say?

Again: I think we're basically on the same side here, but I detest uninformed black/white sensationalism, and always prefer a well-informed and nuanced opinion.
 
Old 06-09-2022, 09:37 AM   #25
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I fully expect that Russia will successfully complete her limited military mission, and that will be the end of it. Despite their posturing, neither the USA nor the EU will intervene – this is Ukraine's fight to lose, and it has been a long time in coming.

But, they will waste no opportunity for grifting and profiteering, of course.

There will be no "escalation." This is not the beginnings of World War III. But it is obvious that a future Pan-European ("World") War is being contemplated. NATO's recent "expansions" consist of a slow-motion chess game with that precise objective: a European war with Russia as the initial target. They are quietly setting the chessmen in place. But I don't think they're ready to launch it yet.

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Old 06-16-2022, 03:21 AM   #26
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Scholz vows support for Ukraine for 'as long as necessary'

35 Min. ago — Berlin: German Chancellor Olaf Scholz pledged enduring backing for Ukraine as he arrived in Kyiv on Thursday.

At the end of the day, ..., anyhow, Germany will not give the supply that Ukraine asked for. Seems they need heavier long distance units.
Furthermore, news of yesterday, a Nato supply has been destroyed 2 days ago.

edit: "pledged enduring backing" ... it is a complete joke.
Ukraine gov. has been begging for months Germany to help them.

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Old 06-16-2022, 07:46 AM   #27
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How do you know Germany doesn't help? Obviously, the best way to stop the war and remove Russian troops from Ukraine is a some kind of revolution in Russia (which actually might cause revolution in Ukraine as well, but that's another thing). And, you know, Germany has some experience in helping Russian revolution to happen in past, so why not this time?
 
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Like it or not, "Putin is not going anywhere." He is a powerful and very popular leader of a self-sufficient country that is a major energy supplier to all of Europe: energy for which they have no alternative source. Unlike the United States, Russia still manufactures whatever it needs. Unlike the US and NATO, Russia has a powerful and well-trained military which is capable of winning wars exactly as they have planned. And this is exactly what will happen here. Although Western grifters would like this war to "last forever," just like their various also-profitable exercises in Middle Eastern deserts, they do not have the power to do so. Russia is firmly in charge of this. They will accomplish their mission, dictate peace terms, and be done with what years of futile diplomacy could never do.

Russia does not need the West, but the West needs Russia.

Shipments of weapons and other materials of war must travel by truck or train across what is now hostile territory, and these are quite-routinely being blown up by targeted missiles for which there is no effective defense. Video game characters notwithstanding, the Ukranians have no control over their skies. If you don't have that, you're a sitting duck wherever you are.

The Ukranians have already lost this war, but they still refuse to acknowledge it. Russia has committed barely 5% of its military power to this operation. Game over. Putin stays.

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Old 06-16-2022, 10:58 AM   #29
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Like it or not, "Putin is not going anywhere." He is a powerful and very popular leader of a self-sufficient country that is a major energy supplier to all of Europe: energy for which they have no alternative source. Unlike the United States, Russia still manufactures whatever it needs. Unlike the US and NATO, Russia has a powerful and well-trained military which is capable of winning wars exactly as they have planned. And this is exactly what will happen here. Although Western grifters would like this war to "last forever," just like their various also-profitable exercises in Middle Eastern deserts, they do not have the power to do so. Russia is firmly in charge of this. They will accomplish their mission, dictate peace terms, and be done with what years of futile diplomacy could never do.

Russia does not need the West, but the West needs Russia.

Shipments of weapons and other materials of war must travel by truck or train across what is now hostile territory, and these are quite-routinely being blown up by targeted missiles for which there is no effective defense. Video game characters notwithstanding, the Ukranians have no control over their skies. If you don't have that, you're a sitting duck wherever you are.

The Ukranians have already lost this war, but they still refuse to acknowledge it. Russia has committed barely 5% of its military power to this operation. Game over. Putin stays.
Beautiful text, nicely written.

Sadly, it is true.
 
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^ No it isn't. sundialsvcs seems to suffer from some sort of nostalgic image of a strong Russia - much like Putin himself.
Totally unrealistic. Fuelled by certain US alt-right "Christian" articles on the web. Anything to "own the libs", amirite? Hurr durr, I voted Trump in the last election and I feel so salty right now! I will really show them and put on a Russian general's uniform!

Russia depends a lot on other countries for all sorts of resources. Yes, they have oil and coal but not much more.
They are definitely not winning this war. Already now they are limiting their attacks to more "realistic" gains of territory, not the whole country.
The sanctions really hurt Russia - not only its people, who I feel deeply sorry for and apologise - but also the military & government.
They can still hold out for a long while, with all that country and people at their disposal, but they cannot win. They will never take all of Ukraine, however hesitant countries like Germany are. And any outcome that doesn't _at least_ restore Ukraine's borders of Feb 2022 will result in total isolation from most of the rest of the world. Hell, even China wants no part in this.

But this is the only sad thing: all this is taking much too long for the Ukrainian people.

The Germans are helping in many ways and are on Europe's and Ukraine's side for sure - but I wish they'd stop acting coy, get it over with and join Britain & Co. in properly supporting Ukraine with the weapons they need, right now.

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