If you look objectively at the war theres not much of a war going on. The US has destroyed the iraqi armed forces, captured saddam, setup a new government and, is rebuilding the countries infrastructure. The insurgents are just setting off bombs here and there and theres no evidence to show that they represent any part of the old iraqi government.

Look up the definition of war and you'll understand why they call it a war;

1. A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties.
2. The period of such conflict.
3. The techniques and procedures of war; military science.
4. To wage or carry on warfare.
5. To be in a state of hostility or rivalry; contend.

Everything pointed out in BOLD should apply to Iraq.

Yeah, and Korea was just a "police action".......

I'm sure that the families of all our soldiers who have been killed or wounded will take great comfort in the fact that it didn't happen during a war.


And now for something completely different....

Congrats Trickykid on hitting 20K posts. It looks to me like you've got the LQO Cal Ripken award all sewn up.

Funny you mention that. Cal Ripken was my hero or idol, whatever you want to call it, when I was growing up. Though I stopped watching baseball after he retired, all the current players seem fake to me, especially with all the steroid abuse that's going on.

But that's one thing I do believe, Cal Ripken did it without cheating. When he got older, you could tell by his stats, number of games played and he was actually showing his age, unlike some of the other 40 year olds still hitting 50 plus homers..

But cheers on the congrats, I think.. even though post counts mean nothing to me, when I think about it, 20k is a hell of lot of posts.. ughh!

That may have been true during the invasion and a when the Iraqis were defending themselves against the American, Tyrannical, Neo-christian Bush administration but NOW its not much of a war.

I beg to differ. While I completely agree w/ you about this
What about the 1,100+ american deaths(not to mention iraqi)? 1,100 people don't die during peace time. If it's not peace time, it's war...as much as I hate it

you cant call it a war can you?. i didn't do research, but in order for it to be war, congress must declare war, since i didn't look at it, did they declare war, or is this another policing action like Korea?

and yes, it should give people comfort they didn't die in a war, but as police officers spreading democracy by killing off other political systems.

even if there was a official war in Iraq, its over now, the Iraq government and military was destroyed, all you have now is a bunch of innocent people around, a bunch of innocent people in body bags, a bunch of trigger-happy kids, and a bunch of religious people fighting for their land. but no war, maybe some deaths everyday, but that happens everywhere, so no need to fear if you think joining the US forces will put you in war, no, it'll put you in a police state, and maybe a body bag, deathbed, or hospital, but not in a war..... not for a few years anyway...

now, continue to spread democracy and capitalism thru the killing of opposing views, praise be to the armed forces of the US, where would the world be without them? praise be to them for killing those that think different, praise be to them for taking land away from people, praise be to those that force people to walk naked like a dog, praise to those that rise their thumbs in approval of animal rights, and praise to those that do it while those animals are behind bars and tied up.

fight on America!, we await the day for brain implants so you can know we haven't got a thought against you!

There's the war on terrorism. There's a war on drugs. Is there another I haven't heard of?

"War" isn't the only word that gets a meaning from the political elite:
"History" is too, and "evolution"...

Perhaps some day we will see those airplanes dropping bombs as dropping seeds of violence which will be reaped someday

Would the mods please, please, please start closing these Iraq threads... people around the world have been arguing about this for years, and they'll be doing it for years to come. How many times do we really need to rehash this?

There are plenty of political forums on the web... please take this kind of thing there. This kind of thread doesn't change any minds, and only raises everyones blood pressure.

I thought this wasn't flaimbate?

Oh, that was just to appease the nut jobs here on the forum because I know many here actually believe that about america because they are brainwashed by their commie-socialist government run media.
I guess everyone missed the point. I was referring to the so called war now, not when it started not 6 months ago, now. There really is no war going on. America is rebuilding the country more than we are fighting anyone, and there are very few remnants of the old government to fight.

Most insurgents come from the Shia "branch" of Islam. Hussein is a sunnite (a minority in the country). There's no formal war against one government, but it doesn't matter what this word "war" means to you and me. The US administration says it's a "war on terrorism" and many muslims have a Yihad. Got it?

You fool yourself and you're trying to fool everyone. The US was never interested to destroy this oil-rich country. They killed iraqis, destroyed the remains of the ancient Babilonia, sure, but they desperately want oil. Bush & Cheney are oil junkies. This war was for oil, so I'd rather say: "Tyrannical, Neo-christian, Greedy, Piggy Oily Bush administration".

Note: The US is not "America" (as it was probably taught to you). The meaning of the word comes from a spanish settler named "Americo Vespucio"

Do you think by being condescending that makes you better than anyone else? I know who america was named after, Maybe if your liberal friends were teaching that instead of some lame ass social engineering crap kids today would know that.
Typical liberal thinking, Attack, Denegrate, and mislead because you dont get your way.

My world isn't composed by "conservatives, neo-conservatives, communists, liberals, etc.". Those words may have meaning to you. I don't need "liberal" friends to make up my mind, nor do I need people who think like I am and "defend" what they think it's "ours".

Patriotism is about identifying with frontiers, so the less thing I need is "patriotic" friends.

Typical modern-media-way to dismiss arguments. I always exercise not to denigrate anybody, but I do attack ideas (religions, patriotism, etc.). I respect the individual choice to anything, but I have no pity on ideas and we are all "free" to argue/discuss/dismiss them in any way we like. If you were offended, it may be that you over-identified with the idea. It's not my fault. You must know what you're saying everytime instead of trying to fool everybody and then come crying

The only part of what you stated that I found offensive is that you lowered yourself to the typical war for oil propaganda, Thats to bad you had to stoop to that level. If you have any proof that the war was for oil please present it.