@linus72 - What you're saying not only sounds like religious prejudice but it makes you seem ignorant of the ways of the world as well as extremely judgmental. Look at the diversity under the wing of Christianity. Do you suppose all Christians drink strychnine and dance with poisonous snakes in their mouths? A "boad brush" just won't do to describe any group larger than a hundred or so. It's just ridiculous to try lump millions.

All bibles by their very nature are cryptic and interpreted in a near infinite number of ways. Mohammed was a warrior so the Quoran naturally has language steeped in warrior culture that sounds violent in some places to us. It is far more puzzling how a pacifist shepherd ends up with so much violence but it does. Books can't be evil since they are inanimate. Only people are capable of evil. There exist evil Christians and evil Muslims or more accurately evil people will find justification someplace. Try not to fall into collectivist labeling traps or risk falling into evil yourself.

Oh yeah it's real "cryptic" where it says "Kill all unbelievers" or "behead those who do not believe in Allah" kind of hard to interpret those and all the others right?

No more remarkable than any of the equally-bloody commands and prophecies that appear in the Bible, actually. Including, say, the commands given on the eve of a battle that the Israelites are to not leave even one animal standing in the land that they were about to [try to ...] conquer. Basically, "this is par for the course." And it is, inevitably, "the god's own sacred command[ment]."

Of course you're going to say that the gods, whoever they might be, are going to fight for you, and that (if you survive the next six hours ...) you are doing their holy work. That's motivational speaking. You'll also have the aforesaid deity promising the eternal destruction of the people you don't like ... even though you can surf to those places on Google Earth and very plainly see that they are not burning with eternal fire; at least, not yet.

And so on. Sure, there are "hot heads" out there who are predisposed to do nasty things and who look to various books for justification. But you just can't characterize a people that way. Fact is, most people actually just want to live their own lives, more or less in peace. And they more or less do so. "Right boring, isn't it?"

I think Winston Churchill said it best

This thread is NOT about Religion, for that go to the megathread and rant there about whose god is biggest.

What percent of whats make war, (i.e: politics, religions, stupidity, etc...) would politics be higher than religion or is it that we're still evolving from apes?!.

Kids can start towards the military at almost any age even tho their brains won't stop developing until around twenty-five, ten years before they can run for "commander and chief."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpGhIP-nSJE

For those that won't click the link:

People on the street they wannna find a god they'll never know,
organized religion pulls the blinds then they pull the wool,
they open up your head, they're fuckin' with your mind,
now you can't see because you're blind
You try to make amends but your heads still spinnin' round,
the church of Jesus Christ said it's time, don't fuck around,
you wanna go to heaven, you see it isn't free, give your money up to me
My god is not the one that you wanna see, your god is a mirage,
a conspiracy, you pray for forgiveness cause your sinnin',
scared to death so your money you'll be givin', yeah
(Ohoh)

Holier than thou with your one way morality,
I think your shallow faith isn't based in reality,
you don't like how were live, we're sinful and obscene,
why are you judgin' me?
You're richer than God but you're cryin' out for more,
you're livin' like a king while you steal from the poor,
wanna be forgiven, get on your knees and pray,
send in your cash and be saved

My god is not the one that you wanna see,
your god is a mirage, a conspiracy,
you pray for forgiveness cause your sinnin',
scared to death so your money you'll be givin',
yeah, better hope you've been chosen to be saved
(Ohoh)
Cause your empathy only goes so far today
Pay no mind to those in pain if you just want the souls
who are willing to pay
Their way, your god's not for me

My god is not the one that you wanna see,
your god is a mirage, a conspiracy,
you pray for forgiveness cause your sinnin',
scared to death so your money you'll be givin',
yeah, my god is not the one that you wanna see,
your god is a mirage, a conspiracy,
you pray for forgiveness cause your sinnin',
scared to death so your money you'll be givin',
yeah, stop

I fought a war over god, I don't want my child to fight for the same reason. The faster we get god out of the international consciousness the better the world will be.

Here's another interesting gimmick many may not know about, unless you've been there or watched/read The Watchmen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock

He was a manic depressive bard.

Are you aware that most of your country's gains in the "War on Terror" (including the conquest of Afghanistan, the "Awakenings" that defeated Al Qaeda In Iraq, and the current campaign against the Islamic State) depended on the help of Muslim allies? And that many Jihadists see the general Muslim world as their greatest enemy?

The schools of Islam (all of which seem to be Sunni, such as Wahabbism,) that give rise to these groups, sure. Islam in general, no.

Anyway, my own prediction is that WWIII will begin the way WWI started, with the belligerent nations joining not because they actually have a stake, but because their political situation obligates them to.

In a someday perfect world maps will be for geological wonderment...

Politics and religion are one, just build the roads and pay teachers so on!

Russian Bomber Patrols to Reach Gulf of Mexico
http://abcnews.go.com/international/...exico-26855206

2 cool anti-War Songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBd5W9IA7n0

@whois u mean 1 cool antiwar song good lyrics about being stupid tho!

Here's one: http://youtu.be/B1eCAYN7uis

Let me guess metaschima, this is for the music megathread?

Thanks for sharing. It sounds pretty good.