The Faith & Religion mega Thread

Plain and simple like that, comprehension is not a prerequisite like the the law whoops I'm in the "law!"

Originally Posted by jamison20000e I know I sometimes suck at yous understand me,,, but point to ask what does this mean eg "RE..."?

RE == Religious Education.

A certain amount is (or was) compulsory in the UK, but course content seems to vary a lot - some places teach one specific type of Christianity in detail, others give a shallow (and occasionally accurate) overview of a selection of world religions' practices.

Originally Posted by Pastychomper RE == Religious Education. A certain amount is (or was) compulsory in the UK, but course content seems to vary a lot - some places teach one specific type of Christianity in detail, others give a shallow (and occasionally accurate) overview of a selection of world religions' practices.

You're describing the situation as it is now. When I was at school, back in the 50's, RE had to be "broadly Christian". And yes, it was compulsory. But I always regarded it as being in practice very much like smallpox vaccination: you were given a dilute version to immunise you against the real thing!

Originally Posted by enorbet {...} Because this entity is not here now and even if the superstitious past wasn't superstitious he wasn't even here 2000 years ago as he instead allegedly sent his son. There is zero evidence and can be none {...} I can't know if it actually would be better, but the point is moot since similarly it might be better if Santa Claus, the Tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny were all real, too. Being "better" doesn't make it so.... and what do you suppose is so special about aliens? They would be essentially in the same boat as we, completely governed by Space and Time of THIS universe. I have no clue why Evolution would make anyone feel worthless? Can you please explain?{...}

Relating to your first part of post you show signs of fake expert. But as for 'entity'. I already gave that russian channel to watch which suggests that entity sacrificed itself to make us alive. How can you disproove it? Maybe it is true. It makes sense. If Creator is not visible outside us it could be inside us for some reason. None has debunked such claim. But if such stuff like SIN does exist afterall then it is sin that prevents our connection with God. Either way there can be valid explanation why we are seperate from our Creator today.

Aliens are much better because creation gives purpose for our human life experience without "watching over us 24/7" just like heaven to live and makes sense because there are signs and clues about creation around us and evolution is just as problematic for human growth as threats of hell. Just like with that russian video(i not see eng sub yet so either read comments or ask translation or)..if aliens created and|or limited us they have option to make our lives better and we can help them aswell.

Originally Posted by hazel ... But I always regarded it as being in practice very much like smallpox vaccination: you were given a dilute version to immunise you against the real thing!

Nicely put! That, at least, hadn't changed 25 years ago.

Originally Posted by enorbet Because this entity is not here now and even if the superstitious past wasn't superstitious he wasn't even here 2000 years ago as he instead allegedly sent his son. There is zero evidence

There is more historical evidence for the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth than for the existence of Julius Caesar or Napoleon Bonaparte.

Originally Posted by enorbet . . . by definition as the creator of this Universe he must reside outside the Universe.

Quite illogical. For God to exist as God, his Presence would not be confined to this limited universe, but would certainly include it. He could easily put Himself into his own creation, analogously as some writers may write themselves into their own books.

Why do you capitalize of "Universe", "Space" and "Time"? Are these things in some way 'divine' for you? Do you suppose that the Creator of the universe must somehow be subject to the limits of the your divine universe, or conversely, that he must be confined to some 'place' outside the universe? And then complain that such a God is limited?

Originally Posted by enorbet How much proof do you suppose there can there be beyond Space and Time itself?

Many people come to faith through the light of reason and the historical record. But the best 'proof' is probably personal experience. Once your life has been changed, and you come to know your God and Savior as certainly as you know your own father or wife, and have experienced his Presence in your daily life, all other arguments fade.

Originally Posted by dogpatch There is more historical evidence for the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth than for the existence of Julius Caesar or Napoleon Bonaparte.

the bible is not evidence, the best the bible can be used for is hearsay (rumor) so where is this evidence?

every museum of natural history is a warehouse full of evidence for evolution in the fossil record and more keeps getting dug up everyday, plus every human on earth has more evidence in every cell in their body in the form of DNA that proves their lineage that can be traced all the way back to when hour species split from the great ape family

fossils, DNA, theres no denying where we came from, and if the bible is wrong about where we came from how can you trust it for anything else

the bible is just a collection of plagiarized myth, brutally primitive laws, and thousands of outright lies.

it all boils down to these three statements
god is a myth, the bible is fiction and religion is bullshit

Originally Posted by Okie the bible is not evidence, the best the bible can be used for is hearsay (rumor) so where is this evidence?

Was not referring to the Bible, but to non-biblical historical evidence. Else why would i have compared to Napoleon or Caesar?

Originally Posted by dogpatch Was not referring to the Bible, but to non-biblical historical evidence. Else why would i have compared to Napoleon or Caesar?

lets see some non-biblical historical evidence for jesus?

Originally Posted by dogpatch There is more historical evidence for the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth than for the existence of Julius Caesar or Napoleon Bonaparte. Quite illogical. For God to exist as God, his Presence would not be confined to this limited universe, but would certainly include it. He could easily put Himself into his own creation, analogously as some writers may write themselves into their own books. Why do you capitalize of "Universe", "Space" and "Time"? Are these things in some way 'divine' for you? Do you suppose that the Creator of the universe must somehow be subject to the limits of the your divine universe, or conversely, that he must be confined to some 'place' outside the universe? And then complain that such a God is limited? Many people come to faith through the light of reason and the historical record. But the best 'proof' is probably personal experience. Once your life has been changed, and you come to know your God and Savior as certainly as you know your own father or wife, and have experienced his Presence in your daily life, all other arguments fade.

We were taught, now we think...

Originally Posted by Okie {...}fossils, DNA, theres no denying where we came from{...} it all boils down to these three statements god is a myth, the bible is fiction and religion is bullshit

Then how do evolution explain junkDNA and ancient structures around world seen in real life and on TV show Ancient Aliens?

No it boils down that none can claim such stuff: Fixed ending is: God maybe is myth but maybe not, bible maybe is fiction but maybe not, religion maybe is bullshit but maybe not. Who cannot think at the end?

Is anyone from Florida? Can someone visit Coral Castle for example from my signature and then honestly post it was of no importance?

And gullible isn't really a word. Look it up.

“Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.”

—Archimedes

Originally Posted by netcrawl And gullible isn't really a word. Look it up. “Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.” —Archimedes

gul·li·ble /ˈɡələb(ə)l/ adjective easily persuaded to believe something; credulous. "an attempt to persuade a gullible public to spend their money" synonyms:credulous,*over-trusting,*over-trustful,*trustful,*easily deceived/led,*easily taken in,*exploitable,*dupable,*deceivable,*impressionable,*unsuspecting,*unsuspicious,*unwary,*unguarded, *unsceptical,*ingenuous,*naive,*innocent,*simple,*inexperienced,*unworldly,*green,*as green as grass,*childlike,*ignorant;*More

Words evolve like religion$...

Originally Posted by Okie lets see some non-biblical historical evidence for jesus?

Well, for starters, you could Google "non-biblical historical evidence for jesus"

Originally Posted by dogpatch Well, for starters, you could Google "non-biblical historical evidence for jesus"

Good advice here at LQ...