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Old 04-03-2019, 12:19 AM   #1
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President Trump Needs To Be Cautious About Closing Mexico Border


Lot of people around the world will be watching that to see

how the President treats regular people.

He already in my opinion has used up his 'making hard on

people in general' with the government closure.

A closure at the border would make him look uncaring and

out of touch with everyday life.

The tough talk about immigration is arguable.I am sure he

believes in what he is doing but you can't make hard

changes in huge numbers of peoples lives just to make a

point.


Not very good for the peoples confidence in him.
 
Old 04-03-2019, 12:36 AM   #2
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President Trump is an idiot full stop. President Trump needs to be voted out. Don't get me wrong, I can understand why people didn't trust the other choice, but still, and like what I'll be doing when my country goes to the polls in the very near future, and in that case, people need to either not vote or put a blank ballot paper into the ballot box (like I'll be doing). There's no point voting for any of them if they are all bad choices. But, people get what they vote for...
 
Old 04-03-2019, 12:50 AM   #3
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People who support Trump will continue to support him (like me) people who dont, dont.. I think more Americans are pro Trump but we'll see in the 2020 election... But I can tell you that all the negative stuff you hear about him in the media is biased, and thus it's not real journalism. I was skeptical to Trump at first (him being a billionaire and all), but after seeing all the uncalled for attacks against him, and straight out lies, I knew something else was afoot... "If youíre not pissing someone off, you probably arenít doing anything important" - Oliver Emberton...

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Old 04-03-2019, 01:27 AM   #4
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Most people may not be aware of two things.These would be disrupted by closure.

Millions crossing over legally every day to work at jobs here in the US and going back in the

evening.

Second thing is industry right across the border on the Mexican side.Maquiladoras.

They make things that are two heavy to ship from China.Car parts, washers and dryers etc.

If middle america sore heads want their wives to go back to washing and drying clothes by

hand go for it.A little humor there.

But.Closure would make it hard on Mexican workers.Mexico's middle class if you wish.So.By

extension the President does not respect hard work if he closes the border.

Bad omen for the American middle class and all American workers.

CNN's one story about closure only talked about fruits and vegetables.Good going CNN! They

put Mexico squarely in the 'Banana republic' category!They are usually chomping at the bit

to tag or smear somebody with stereotyping or something and they did it to themselves.

So.The President should be more presidential about even considering closing the border.
 
Old 04-03-2019, 01:28 AM   #5
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"If youíre not pissing someone off, you probably arenít doing anything important" - Oliver Emberton...
so, every schoolyard bully is doing "something important"?
i really hope that in context this quote doesn't sound so ridiculous. i fear for the mind of oliver emberton.
 
Old 04-03-2019, 01:51 AM   #6
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'every schoolyard bully is doing "something important"?'

That is a false argument.It's merely tagging or smearing the president with 'schoolyard bully'

label.

'I fear for the mind of oliver emberton.' sic Proper names should be capitalized.

More false argument.Introducing 'fear' into the discussion of the president.The primary goal

appears to be introducing the word 'fear'.By using it referring to a secondary remark about

what somebody was quoted saying.

The debate is 'What are the real effects of closing the border with Mexico' and 'Should the

president do this lightly or think on it long and hard before acting on it one way or

another.'
 
Old 04-03-2019, 02:09 AM   #7
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so, every schoolyard bully is doing "something important"?
Must be very important work, in fact Trump makes an art form out of it.

(sarcasm not directed at you, no names mentioned...)

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i really hope that in context this quote doesn't sound so ridiculous. i fear for the mind of oliver emberton.
I'm not sure how it could be taken out of context when we're talking about Trump... Isn't Trump famous for that?

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'every schoolyard bully is doing "something important"?'

That is a false argument.It's merely tagging or smearing the president with 'schoolyard bully' label.
No it isn't. It doesn't stop your beloved "president" labeling and "smearing" others, now does it?

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'I fear for the mind of oliver emberton.' sic Proper names should be capitalized.
You knew who he meant. Are you the grammar police?

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More false argument.Introducing 'fear' into the discussion of the president. The primary goal appears to be introducing the word 'fear'. By using it referring to a secondary remark about what somebody was quoted saying.
Like your beloved "president" is famous for...

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The debate is 'What are the real effects of closing the border with Mexico' and 'Should the president do this lightly or think on it long and hard before acting on it one way or another.'
The problem is that your "president" is a racist and an idiot, so you really expect him to "think long and hard about it" ?? Good luck with that one...
 
Old 04-03-2019, 06:16 AM   #8
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"If youíre not pissing someone off, you probably arenít doing anything important" - Oliver Emberton...
so, every schoolyard bully is doing "something important"?
No, no. You're assuming the converse is true (which would be "if you are pissing someone off, anything you are doing is important"), but he never said that.

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i really hope that in context this quote doesn't sound so ridiculous.
Context seems to be here: https://oliveremberton.com/2014/if-y...ing-important/
 
Old 04-03-2019, 09:16 AM   #9
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Old 04-03-2019, 10:47 AM   #10
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The tough talk about immigration is arguable.I am sure he

believes in what he is doing [etc]
I doubt it... it's not much more in fact than populist rhetoric to appease the racists, xenophobes and of course the various fascists, white supremacists and neo Nazis who helped put him in office.
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sic Proper names should be capitalized.
While we're on that subject, how about proper line breaks and two spaces after a full stop (even one would be an improvement)?
 
Old 04-03-2019, 01:11 PM   #11
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I had no idea there were enough ultra-conservative right-wing nazis to elect this monster to office.
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populist rhetoric to appease the racists, xenophobes and of course the various fascists, white supremacists and neo Nazis who helped put him in office.
Wow, isn't that special. Calling American voters nazi's and racists because you don't agree with them. Do you need to go take one of your pills? No really, sounds like you are about to bust something.

This is precisely why Trump is still polling as good as he is. It is partially a backlash against such talk. You either believe what we want you to believe or we will destroy you. Uh ya, we get it. Hillary could not figure that out either.

We are even having to pass laws, taking away their funding, forcing the nations Universities to stop trying to silence people. If it's outside of the lefts thought bubble then "You can't say that".

People who voted for Trump and poll for him know how stupid he sounds.
And how he brags, and how he double talks. It isn't that they are stupid, the other side is worse!

We just saw a political action group media harp on the collusion with Russia theme, night after night after night, for 2 years, with glee. They were almost orgasmic over it. Oh boy we got him now, we got him now. And what did the report say when it finally came out, so far a big fat nothing. And a few of them (media) are unhinged over it. Why? Why would a media be vested in a particular political party. Is that what media does?

They are viewed as one of the greatest threats to freedom that the US faces, and Trump is the first president to call them what they are to their face, complete partisan phony fakes. When he told Jim Acosta to drop dead, I think 50 million Americans stood up and cheered for the TV set.

So you don't understand a few things. Such as how we arrived here.
You ever hear the saying, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"?
 
Old 04-03-2019, 01:35 PM   #12
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Old 04-03-2019, 01:47 PM   #13
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Apologize if I offended
Nope not offended at all. I like free speech, it's wonderful.
 
Old 04-03-2019, 02:15 PM   #14
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'every schoolyard bully is doing "something important"?'

That is a false argument.It's merely tagging or smearing the president with 'schoolyard bully'

label.
not what i meant, not what i said. but i like it, thanks for providing it.

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More false argument.Introducing 'fear' into the discussion of the president.The primary goal

appears to be introducing the word 'fear'.By using it referring to a secondary remark about

what somebody was quoted saying.

The debate is 'What are the real effects of closing the border with Mexico' and 'Should the

president do this lightly or think on it long and hard before acting on it one way or

another.'
you are interpreting a LOT of stuff into my short remark.
it has NOTHING to do with what i meant, but somehow i still feel flattered...
thanks!

and it seems we both are hopeful that mr trump will start some real thinking eventually!
i'll settle for that!

PS: still not capitalizing

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I remember when this mindless dolt was elected, my wife and I sat flabbergasted, like this was some sort of cruel April Fool's joke
same here.
unfortunately, even the cruellest joke becomes dull when you hear it almost daily. we got used to the craziness coming out of trumpistan, just like we got used to so many other craziness coming of so many other countries over time...
from the early days: https://youtu.be/ShkzzsKBVoc?t=88
 
Old 04-03-2019, 04:12 PM   #15
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Living on the border. Grinning at the posts. Time to rate this thread.

Too little.
Too late.

Everything else is just done in meanness.

I wish the trump voters lived like desperate immigrants. Demo's can stand in a bread line also. I aint picky. Here have some Menudo.

Brown skin change is a coming. Eventually. Birth rates support that.

Look at China. Locking up a million Muslims.
Desperation is in the air every where . Climate Change. Border closings. Hate speech every where.

Meanwhile on the border

I'll start popping some popcorn and break out some red stripe beer and grin some more at these responses from clueless folks that don't live on the Mexican border.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/04...-would-happen/
 
  


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