President Trump Needs To Be Cautious About Closing Mexico Border
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I doubt it... it's not much more in fact than populist rhetoric to appease the racists, xenophobes and of course the
various fascists, white supremacists and neo Nazis who helped put him in office.
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Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd
I had no idea there were enough ultra-conservative right-wing nazis to elect this monster to office.
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Originally Posted by rokytnji
Are we gonna close the Canadian border also?
Naw. They are white.
Lol look how full of hate you guys are, there's simply no reasoning with liberals who are absolutely convinced that anyone who supports Trump or a border wall must be a racist.. I'm Mexican/American and I can tell you im not a racist! There's no reason to close the Canadian border cause there's no drug cartels there... You guys are all operating on emotion alone, NOT logic. The media (CNN, CNN international, etc) creates entire classes of victims and gets you guys to emotionally react to it... Stop falling for it...
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Originally Posted by slackwarenewbee
Lot of people around the world will be watching that to see
how the President treats regular people.
He already in my opinion has used up his 'making hard on
people in general' with the government closure.
A closure at the border would make him look uncaring and
out of touch with everyday life.
The tough talk about immigration is arguable.I am sure he
believes in what he is doing but you can't make hard
changes in huge numbers of peoples lives just to make a
point.
Not very good for the peoples confidence in him.
I trust the president to outweigh the pros vs the cons.. The cons are that at least 2 billion dollers come through the border down by San Diego everyday, as SD's largest import's from Tijuana are beer and avacados.. That's alot of money... But then again we can't have thousands of undocumented immigrants ILLEGALLY crossing the border without us first vetting who they are, as that becomes a national security risk..
Last edited by young_jedi; 04-03-2019 at 07:10 PM.
Not a liberal and I don't appreciate being called one by someone that didn't understand my posts or automatically assumes that if I don't like trump I am a liberal. I am also not a racist. Not full of hate, just completely disgusted by the individual that was elected as president. I am entitled to an opinion, just as you are.
I would like to say fair enough, but your previous post assumes im a "ultra-conservative right-wing nazi".. But it's whatever, I
dont get offended on things I know aren't true..
Last edited by young_jedi; 04-03-2019 at 07:46 PM.
If middle america sore heads want their wives to go back to washing and drying clothes by hand go for it.
Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?
Why don't you tell me what you have over the people in Middle America? I'm just a dumb hick from the Midwest so I'm ignorant of such things. Please go into as much detail as possible so hopefully I'll be able to comprehend it.
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Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd
Not a liberal and I don't appreciate being called one by someone that didn't understand my posts or automatically assumes that if I don't like trump I am a liberal. I am also not a racist. Not full of hate, just completely disgusted by the individual that was elected as president. I am entitled to an opinion, just as you are.
No you're not, didn't you know, you're "fake news".
These Trump supporters are a funny bunch, they demand "free speech", yet when confronted with their own bullshit, they cannot handle it one little bit...
The cons are that at least 2 billion dollars come through the border down by San Diego everyday, as SD's largest import's from Tijuana are beer and avocados..
I believe the busiest port is Laredo and the largest import is automobile parts. In a matter of a week or so the US automobile manufacturing industry would be just about shutdown.
For decades the Immigration "catch and release program" would let families legally live in the US until their case came up in court which could take years. Obviously they would get "lost" and never show up for court. While the President has shut down that process, now all the families are being detained at the border which has created part of the current crisis. It is also obvious the immigration process is broken regardless of how many illegal crossings happened last month. There are thousands of people wanting to enter the US under the asylum rule. I assume asylum seekers are being misled and do not understand the new "rules" which is causing the crisis and that ICE or whomever have no idea how to detain or handle the large number of people which is causing more problems. Although now they are being turned back and forced to stay in Mexico which has its own problems and causing the increase in the number of illegal crossings. In addition asylum seekers can actually enter the US without going through a fence and the border patrol must take them into custody. Not sure how shutting down the border will fix anything... Just my random thoughts.
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And lets keep the language civil.
Just to be clear: my point in post #21 was that; if Trump supporters are going to carry on about "free speech", then others that disagree also have every right to offer their thoughts as well... even if they disagree with something Trump says/does/has done, and/or the thoughts of Trump supporters.
Regarding Trump being a racist; when he has said things like "their bringing drugs, their bringing crime", etc, which in that case he was clearly talking about Mexicans, then these comments are, to many people racist comments, that smears an entire country of people, which simply isn't fair nor right. So it's most certainly NOT just because he wants to build HIS "wall". The reality (if Trump supporters are even interested in such things of course) is that many of the Mexicans crossing the US southern border have family that are already in the US. As a human being, it's hard to blame them for wanting to see and be with their family. Also, if it's "crisis" now, then it has always been a "crisis", so pretty funny how it was only declared a "crisis" when Trump didn't get his own way...
As you quite correctly point out, when the US immigration system is broken, then no "border wall" nor closing the border altogether is going to solve that. But yet these trump supporters are more interested in defending their beloved president instead of looking at the bigger picture. And indeed, defending the indefensible, which is even worse.
+1
we've been discussing this aspect (among others) at length in some previous thread that was more on topic.
honestly, i can't muster the energy to get into a reasonable discussion about this one more time.
@everyone: go read those previous threads. some good stuff there.
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Originally Posted by rokytnji
Are we gonna close the Canadian border also?
Naw. They are white.
Lol look how full of hate you guys are, there's simply no reasoning with liberals who are absolutely convinced that anyone who supports Trump or a border wall must be a racist.. I'm Mexican/American and I can tell you im not a racist! There's no reason to close the Canadian border cause there's no drug cartels there... You guys are all operating on emotion alone, NOT logic. The media (CNN, CNN international, etc) creates entire classes of victims and gets you guys to emotionally react to it... Stop falling for it...
I trust the president to outweigh the pros vs the cons.. The cons are that at least 2 billion dollers come through the border down by San Diego everyday, as SD's largest import's from Tijuana are beer and avacados.. That's alot of money... But then again we can't have thousands of undocumented immigrants ILLEGALLY crossing the border without us first vetting who they are, as that becomes a national security risk..
Hmm, what a coincidence, I'm also of mixed descent (as they write in bureaucratic documents). BTW, I'm a fisherman, I sell my products on the border between Australia and Greenland. Sorry if I get the country names wrong, I was never good with Geography at school .
Edit: Post corrected for clarity.
Last edited by jazzy_mood; 04-05-2019 at 02:58 AM.
If middle america sore heads want their wives to go back to washing and drying clothes by hand go for it.
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Originally Posted by Trihexagonal
Why don't you tell me what you have over the people in Middle America? I'm just a dumb hick from the Midwest so I'm ignorant of such things. Please go into as much detail as possible so hopefully I'll be able to comprehend it.
Hmm, what a coincidence, I'm also of mixed descent (as they write in bureaucratic documents). BTW, I'm a fisherman, I sell my products on the border between Australia and Greenland. Sorry if I get the country names wrong, I was never good with Geography at school .
Edit: Post corrected for clarity.
Hmm, I'm seeing some stupid comments about romantic electrical towers on some fRee social media. I think it's definitely time to find more global/interplanetary/interstellar/intergalatical authorities to take my products to...
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