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Secondly, a grown man should be not be admitting to saying that sleeping with kids is ok, especially when they're not your kids and they didn't sleep in your bed because they were scared of the boogeyman or something like that.
Thirdly, he puts himself in these situations. Anyone who doesn't think he's weird for his actions with kids, is just denying his problems like he denies it.
The man has problems and should not be left alone with any children without supervision.
And lastly, I do blame the parents in a small sense; who in their right mind trusts a 40 year old man to invite your kids over to play with them, sleep with them in the same room. I don't care if he's the King of the World, no child of mine would be unsupervised with a non trusting family member or very trustworthy longtime friend.
If you ask me, even if he is truly innocent of all charges, he's guilty by just making himself look guilty.
Originally posted by trickykid Well first of all, Michael is a freak.
Secondly, a grown man should be not be admitting to saying that sleeping with kids is ok, especially when they're not your kids and they didn't sleep in your bed because they were scared of the boogeyman or something like that.
Thirdly, he puts himself in these situations. Anyone who doesn't think he's weird for his actions with kids, is just denying his problems like he denies it.
The man has problems and should not be left alone with any children without supervision.
And lastly, I do blame the parents in a small sense; who in their right mind trusts a 40 year old man to invite your kids over to play with them, sleep with them in the same room. I don't care if he's the King of the World, no child of mine would be unsupervised with a non trusting family member or very trustworthy longtime friend.
If you ask me, even if he is truly innocent of all charges, he's guilty by just making himself look guilty.
I agree with this but I think that before the 93 case and this case most adults viewed him as an innocent person that would cause no harm. Its not like they were dropping their kids off with Marilyn Manson. But now I'll be willing to bet you wont see as many children making that trip to Neverland Ranch except those of the most naive parents.
I believe the guy really needs to do some soul searching right now. He needs to be around more adult friends. I'm not saying whats best for the guy because I'm not him but still, there's a saying about guarding and protecting your reputation. Right now his credibility is suspect. Its not shot but he he's sitting in untrusted waters with alot of people right now. Maybe the guy has a mental problem. If he does he should check himself in and see someone.
Originally posted by linuxforlife As for the child having a description of Michael's private parts. I know that I have
been in a gym locker room or at a pool changing room and guys hang out with
their private parts not covered. I can see how that situation could come about.
This would not prove to me molestation in any form.
Oh, yes. He gave a very graphic description. Not sure I'd like to convict some one on that evidence! I sent Matt an e-mail asking him why he had a sketch of a mushroom on his website
But seriously, I think MJ probably is a pedophile, but in this case the evidence was just to weak, so I reluctantly have to agree with the verdict. The accusers mom was definitely a con-artist. She was almost certainly trying to set MJ up for this in the first place.
I think Jacko is Wacko and there is a possibility he's uh, how to put it delicately, um, "played inappropriately" with minors, but with these particular individuals I think he was innocent. The prosecution screwed up by choosing plaintiffs who have a very long history of filing frivilous lawsuits, scamming the government and so forth.
The prosecution is on a witch hunt and guilty or not if they want to prosecute Michael Jackson they ought to choose plaintiffs who boast better credibility.
Originally posted by trickykid Well first of all, Michael is a freak.
Secondly, a grown man should be not be admitting to saying that sleeping with kids is ok, especially when they're not your kids and they didn't sleep in your bed because they were scared of the boogeyman or something like that.
Thirdly, he puts himself in these situations. Anyone who doesn't think he's weird for his actions with kids, is just denying his problems like he denies it.
The man has problems and should not be left alone with any children without supervision.
And lastly, I do blame the parents in a small sense; who in their right mind trusts a 40 year old man to invite your kids over to play with them, sleep with them in the same room. I don't care if he's the King of the World, no child of mine would be unsupervised with a non trusting family member or very trustworthy longtime friend.
If you ask me, even if he is truly innocent of all charges, he's guilty by just making himself look guilty.
Tricky basically posted just what I was gonna post but I will add this, What is with all these bizarre fans that bow at the feet of entertainers as if they are some kind of god? Do these people just have to much time on their hands or what?
Originally posted by BajaNick Tricky basically posted just what I was gonna post but I will add this, What is with all these bizarre fans that bow at the feet of entertainers as if they are some kind of god? Do these people just have to much time on their hands or what?
Yes, I do believe so..
I respect Jackson as a very talented musician and dancer. But unlike Clinton, he deserves to have his privacy invaded when its children involved. I believe his life should be wrecked cause he put himself into a position to be prosecuted for such things so it never hopefully happens again. I don't trust the mother in the case, if she did this to her own child to extrort money, she needs to go to jail with Michael.
I think he's sick and should be in a mental hospital before jail. He's a liar (two or three proclaimed nose jobs my arse), freak and doesn't deserve to be looked at as a innocent man. My gawd, just look at his face, its a plastic fake Peter Pan for crying out loud. I feel just because 12 other people thought he was innocent doesn't mean I have to, that's the great thing about this country, freedom of speech and thought.
Originally posted by trickykid Well first of all, Michael is a freak.
Secondly, a grown man should be not be admitting to saying that sleeping with kids is ok, especially when they're not your kids and they didn't sleep in your bed because they were scared of the boogeyman or something like that.
Thirdly, he puts himself in these situations. Anyone who doesn't think he's weird for his actions with kids, is just denying his problems like he denies it.
The man has problems and should not be left alone with any children without supervision.
And lastly, I do blame the parents in a small sense; who in their right mind trusts a 40 year old man to invite your kids over to play with them, sleep with them in the same room. I don't care if he's the King of the World, no child of mine would be unsupervised with a non trusting family member or very trustworthy longtime friend.
If you ask me, even if he is truly innocent of all charges, he's guilty by just making himself look guilty.
Exactly. The only people scarier then him are the ones holding signs outside while he is being tried for such heinous crimes.
Originally posted by Crashed_Again Exactly. The only people scarier then him are the ones holding signs outside while he is being tried for such heinous crimes.
Oh so true.. it's called, get your own life without worshipping those who think they are above the law. What I'm still wondering is the trial lasted for more than 14 weeks or so.. I wonder where the poeple get the time off or support themselves when they are all standing outside the courtroom all day/week/months cheering for the person on trial.. must be rich people who can do such things or have that much free time on their hands..
At first I thought the jurors were a bunch of complete idiots until I started to look at it more closely. I personally don't know if Jacko touched any kids, but my instincts tell me that he did and will again given the chance. If I was on that jury I would have acquitted him as well. The prosecutor did not build this case with substantial irrefutable facts. He tried to build his case around evidence from other cases where Jacko resolved them out of court, but when the judge would not allow that evidence he panicked. He didn't have anything else to do than put the mother on the stand. I agree with the judge not allowing the evidence. The prosecutor was not trying to prove that this was a pattern of abuse over years, but a single situation of abuse against this one boy. There are just too many "what if's" about the case that makes it unbelievably hard to try.
Now the people that were there outside cheering this freak on really need to start living their own life and stop trying to live through Jacko's. The only people I would stand outside a courthouse for are my family. No damned entertainer is worth standing out there foregoing making money and looking like a freak.
I don't really have an opinion, but when celebreties get involved in things like this you don't have much hope of seeing much 'truth'. Everyone lies their ass off on both sides as they are after money or publicity or just want to get in the feeding frenzy and media hype.
Some of the points I wished to express have already been mentioned by others, but I will say a few things. You would think that after the initial sex abuse cases in the 90s he would have learnt a lesson and not repeated the same mistakes (if indeed they were mistakes). The guy seems to have some sort of mental health problem and inferiority complex. Why try to look like a white person if you are black, to me it seems like he is not proud of himself and his race. All that plastic surgery has now turned him into a freak.
The parents of these children are also very irresponsible. Nobody in their right mind would just leave their children to share a bed with an adult particularly one who has been accused of sexual offences against children in the past. Also from what I have read and heard on the news, the reason why he was "found innocent" was because of "reasonable doubt". I am sure if the witnesses were credible, he would have been found guilty of something, though not necessarily the abuse charges. He maybe a good musician, but he has a lot of serious issues that need sorting out.
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