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Old 03-11-2016, 08:49 PM   #1
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North korea


Assessment of North Korea. :-)
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:10 PM   #2
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Hi Fixit7...

Oh, they have brains, like all human beings do but that's not their problem...

http://www.gotquestions.org/definition-sin.html

http://biblehub.com/proverbs/9-10.htm

Regards...
 
Old 03-12-2016, 12:34 AM   #3
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I suspect that the persons trodden down by the North Korean government would not look kindly on this characterization, were they to have the opportunity to see it.
 
Old 03-12-2016, 06:29 AM   #4
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Your are right, I should have labeled it as the leaders.
 
Old 03-12-2016, 12:11 PM   #5
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North Korea can't even feed its own people, provide power to its cities, and also has aging military hardware. How can they be a threat to anyone especially South Korea. A country which has mandatory conscription to all able-bodied males.

If there was an invasion of the South, it would have to be on the Western Side of the country as the Eastern Side it too mountainous. Highway 1 or National Route 1 runs from the Chinese Border to the South Sea and would probably be the route the invading North would take. That is why there are explosives rigged to the side of the mountains along the highway near the North Korean border. Also the word on the street is that all of the bridges in Seoul that span the Han River are set to explode as well.

I was active duty US Army stationed in South Korea in 2011-2012

Get more info here:

http://www.rokdrop.net/
 
Old 03-14-2016, 03:03 AM   #6
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The bigger picture.

North Korea is more capable of feeding their people than you might think, however it is obvious that all the aid and money is spent on the armed forces as well as all the food going to the elites and mostly the armed forces. Also there is the Songun policy, so civilians have very low priority.

I think it is funny though how much people get into a tizzy about the DPRK. In the actual bigger picture of things, it is nobody's interest for the cease fire to collapse. The North and South are both pawns in a bigger game, the North to China and the South to the US.

If the DPRK ever did strike out with a nuclear device, it would actually NOT be against the south, the main reasoning because there would be too many civilians killed, the North Koreans see the ROK government as the enemy of course, but in their view they are 'liberating the people from a puppet regime', so it would be unthinkable for the North to use a nuclear strike, too many civilians would be killed. As for the US, it is laughable, because of their range. Whether or not they have the capability to actually even reach the US continent is debatable at best. Maybe a better chance would be Hawaii, or the US territory of Guam.

So the obvious target would be Japan; and for obvious reasons.

As for the war itself, again it is in nobodies best interest whatever the outcome. It is not in the South's interest, because if the South won, sure it would be good, but in the long run you have to consider the financial implications. You have a whole part of a reunited country to rebuild, and recovery. You can also look at East Germany for an example, but again it is more complicated here because the North and South have been at war, where as East and West Germany were not. Even if rebuilding would be financially feasible, "de-Kimification" would be an extremely long process.

Second, it is obviously not in China's interest either if there is a war because of the obvious mass refugee crisis on their border, and also there would no longer be a buffer between it and the US aligned Korea.

Also, again if hostilities resumed it would be a much more difficult and bloodier war. The US forces are kinda stretched at the moment, and even though this would be an actual legitimate reason for the US to resume fighting, the public at home at this point have their patience very thin with all these 'military excursions' goings on; so who would aid the South anyways? I don't see a whole lot of countries jumping in, because they have their own problems. Japan? Their constitution forbids it, besides even if they wanted to nobody in the South would exactly welcome them still; remember that the rest of Asia still has an issue with Japan, with good reason.
 
Old 03-14-2016, 06:28 PM   #7
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As for the US, it is laughable, because of their range. Whether or not they have the capability to actually even reach the US continent is debatable at best. Maybe a better chance would be Hawaii, or the US territory of Guam.
some commandos dropped off by submarine on a one-way mission could deliver it anywhere
interesting to note one of their subs has gone "missing"
 
Old 03-14-2016, 06:56 PM   #8
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some commandos dropped off by submarine on a one-way mission could deliver it anywhere
interesting to note one of their subs has gone "missing"
LOL! Do you not have any idea of much city-busting nuclear explosives actually weigh? Hint: check the atomic weights of the isotopes of uranium and/or plutonium that would be used, and compare them to the atomic weight of lead.

The very smallest "tactical" nukes (like the artillery-fired one we've all seen footage of) actually aren't any more powerful than large conventional bombs, you know.

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Old 03-14-2016, 06:59 PM   #9
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The U.S. knows where their sub is with MAD, SOSUS, and hydrophones.

My brother was in ASW on the Nimitz and he told me that our microphones can hear shrimp snapping on the bottom of the ocean.
 
Old 03-15-2016, 02:23 AM   #10
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Ok, so if the US knows where the sub is, then technically it isn't 'missing'. Of course it won't be released to the public. I find it hard to believe it is 'missing' anyways, unless otherwise sunk. Considering it is a hand-me-down from the former Soviet Union, it is probably in bad shape not sea worthy, even if it were I doubt it could anything other than a diesel.

Also if the US can hear shrimp fscking at the bottom of the sea, then I find it hard to believe they are not tracking it as we speak.

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Old 03-15-2016, 03:12 AM   #11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXQv4fglRQ4

Though that video states that they would strike the South with a nuclear device, it is unlikely as I stated before.
 
Old 03-15-2016, 08:01 AM   #12
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Korea is just a good example of what happens when a war is stopped in the middle; is frozen in time. It may be "paused," but it is still very much on fire. And, yes, as others have said, it is today a pawn in a much bigger game. The only people who are losing are the ordinary people who live there.
 
  


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