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Old 01-30-2004, 12:57 PM   #46
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Originally posted by graffitici
I certainly disagree. Before starting my answer though, I'd like to point out that you have just cursed me ( "dumb") . You also used the name of a notable scientist in a derogatory sense to mock me. Unfortunately such behaviors are rampant in this forum. I am sorry for you people who cannot create a decent sentence without swearing (the explanation is coming though).

Now let's think about what kind of games Newton was playing. What do you suppose he played? CounterStrike? Unreal? I know pretty well that those games didn't exist by then. My guess would be Chess or Go.

You said that evolution of technology also improved the world of amusement. Do you suppose that the intellectual level of games have improved for the better? Do you think that we would have such a "dumb" and irresponsible world if only kids were playing chess instead of cs?

While reading some threads, I have read one about a guy playing gnuchess. I can only bow in front of such honorable people. I will be bold enough to assert that such games as cs should be banned to people younger than 18. You may disagree.
I don't think cup-and-ball or dices were intellectually more developed then CS or Quake. The latter are just deeper and better made.

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I will be bold enough to assert that such games as cs should be banned to people younger than 18. You may disagree.
I disagree. Games were created to provide pleasure, not intellectual gratification. If everyone was like you, we would be living in a totalitarian dictature.

Fun and learning are two different things. They can be assimilated (omgchess) or not. They don't have to be. You can't force them to be. You are not a God.
 
Old 01-30-2004, 01:59 PM   #47
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I don't think cup-and-ball or dices were intellectually more developed then CS or Quake. The latter are just deeper and better made.
Who mentioned cup-and-ball and dices? Still you know that I would prefer the first ones. Why? Because they do not involve killing.

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I disagree. Games were created to provide pleasure, not intellectual gratification. If everyone was like you, we would be living in a totalitarian dictature.

Fun and learning are two different things. They can be assimilated (omgchess) or not. They don't have to be. You can't force them to be. You are not a God. [/B]
I cannot believe how many mistakes and misunderstanding can be made in so few sentences. First, do you seriously think that pleasure comes with killing? Can't you have pleasure without murdering? If only there was a psychatrist around.

I still cannot believe you just compared our situation with a totalitarian dictature. Do you know the definition of the words you used?
If everybody thinks the same way, how can that be a dictature? However I am not here to teach you history, but to express my opinions on this pivotal moral issue. And the reason I am simply not discarding this egregious mistake of yours is:
You are wrong.

One of my teacher's daughters was into a game called Ultima Online. She suicided at the age of 15. I am not saying that games should be banned completely. If you read carefully, you'll see that I have said they have to be illegal for people younger than 18 (and, by the way, I am seventeen). You can do whatever you want if you are major. I do not care. But you cannot haunt young minds and separete them from the noble sciences that have created the world we live in.

If everybody thought like me, we wouldn't be living in a dictature, but in a world where parents were not affraid of sending their kids to school. We all know about the numerous school shootings in Columbine, and also in Germany. They wouldn't have to watch CNN and pray God that the SWAT would save their kids.

No I am not God, and I am not forcing anybody to do anything. I am a responsible citizen of the free world who is merely expressing his ideas.
 
Old 01-30-2004, 03:08 PM   #48
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Who mentioned cup-and-ball and dices? Still you know that I would prefer the first ones. Why? Because they do not involve killing.
The last ones do not involve killing either.

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I cannot believe how many mistakes and misunderstanding can be made in so few sentences. First, do you seriously think that pleasure comes with killing? Can't you have pleasure without murdering? If only there was a psychatrist around.
Murdering? When did I speak about murder? Another one of your inventions I guess. You should go seek a psychiatrist because you only think about murder, you sick man.

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I still cannot believe you just compared our situation with a totalitarian dictature. Do you know the definition of the words you used?
If everybody thinks the same way, how can that be a dictature?
Because nobody thinks the same way. You can force people to try to think the same way, it's called totalitarism.

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However I am not here to teach you history, but to express my opinions on this pivotal moral issue. And the reason I am simply not discarding this egregious mistake of yours is:
You are wrong.
It is not a moral issue. It is not an issue at all. I don't think turkish people have the right to teach history to anyone either.

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One of my teacher's daughters was into a game called Ultima Online. She suicided at the age of 15.
Guess what, some distant person I barely knew went to school. that person suicided at age 14. Your point being? School is wrong? Games don't cause suicide. If you go in the street and tell a person to suicide, she will most likely not. Suicide is not caused by games. It might be accentuated by it, as well by everything else. Since suicide is not the issue here, I will not argue about it.

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I am not saying that games should be banned completely. If you read carefully, you'll see that I have said they have to be illegal for people younger than 18 (and, by the way, I am seventeen). You can do whatever you want if you are major. I do not care. But you cannot haunt young minds and separete them from the noble sciences that have created the world we live in.
Science didn't create the world we live in. Human persons did. Haunting young minds? I say you terrorize young minds by not allowing them to play games. Everything you say is a matter of opinion. And since your's is wrong...

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If everybody thought like me, we wouldn't be living in a dictature, but in a world where parents were not affraid of sending their kids to school.
If everybody thought like you, it would be totalitarism. Parents are not afraid to send their kids to school. Except in turkey because of homosexual gang rapers, thieves and lazy people. In a civilized countries, it is not a problem.

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We all know about the numerous school shootings in Columbine, and also in Germany. They wouldn't have to watch CNN and pray God that the SWAT would save their kids.
Numerous. Numerous. Those were not numerous. If you didn't watch CNN you would know that those were rare incidents. Refer to the GTA3 tread for further information.

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No I am not God, and I am not forcing anybody to do anything. I am a responsible citizen of the free world who is merely expressing his ideas.
Free world. Free my back-end. Not forcing anybody. Not forcing yeah right. If you had the power you would, judging by your touching speech.

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Old 01-30-2004, 04:13 PM   #49
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You know that when some one quotes another person and splits the quote into more than about 5 parts to answer them seperately it's usually a sign to end the thread because of a flamewar
 
Old 01-30-2004, 04:14 PM   #50
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Other than tweaking & Slashdot

Baldur's Gate II & Starcraft under WineX
Frozen Bubble
Tetris
 
Old 01-30-2004, 06:11 PM   #51
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I wrote a fun game in Ncurses, I recently tried the Savage Demo, good fun, even for a demo, since its multiplayer.

Bah, although I wished I could compile it in source, mouse goes awry sometimes.

The CD has a source option, I hope?
Or at least some form of customisation or specific configuration....

Oh whats with you? I play war games for the glory of the moment.
 
Old 02-14-2004, 11:46 AM   #52
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heh, it took me 5 hours yesterday to resolve some shared library issues but, Frozen Bubble is the Gas!! All I had to do was re-adjust the xf86config file to get it to play full screen and WOW what a game, and the music is so cool. I'm gonna email the author and thank him and offer a donation to ensure bigger and better versions in the Future.........

I need a 12 step program now,,,,,,,,just can't stop playing it............

Help me......
 
Old 02-19-2004, 06:21 PM   #53
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