good dreamweaver clone

microsoft/linux · 02-18-2005, 10:08 PM

Does anyone know of a good dreamweaver clone that is downloadable in a .deb format? I'd like to have a webdesign program, and I don't like the frontpage I have for Windows

Mega Man X · 02-18-2005, 10:28 PM

There's none. We have something similar called NVU:

http://www.nvu.com/

I found it horrible (as I don't like Dreamweaver of Frontpage either), but some may like it. Or you could just get Quanta+, an html editor, and get your hands dirty instead of programming with the mouse

Oh, and dreaweaver also runs under wine (difficult) or Crossover Office (out of the box)

Good luck!

microsoft/linux · 02-19-2005, 07:12 PM

anything like FrontPage? I have no experience in HTML. Other thoughts?

Optimistic · 02-20-2005, 01:15 AM

FontPage is complete crap---it writes awful code, even worse than Netscape Composer (which us pretty bad). For normal html just learn to write it---it is easy. Then, all you will need is vim or emacs. If you must have a gui, then NVU is about as good as it gets on Linux.

Why learn to write it? It will make fixing it so much easier when something goes wrong. HTML should always be human-readable.

JSpired · 02-20-2005, 01:20 AM

As mentioned, NVU is a good option.

Mega Man X · 02-20-2005, 02:20 AM

And besides, any good page written today has some side-scripting language, so you will need to edit your pages manually, eventually... and html knowledge is required. So why not start learning html now?

. This tutorial will get you started:

http://www.htmlgoodies.com/

Good luck!

thorn168 · 02-20-2005, 08:48 AM

Get yourself a copy of "HTML for the world wide web" by Elizabeth Castro.

Handcoding HTML is not that hard as long as your text editor allows you to create templates and cut/copy and paste.

I would also suggest that you learn CSS because CSS allows you to create a unified look and feel to your documents without a lot of repetitive HTML code.

Thorn

reddazz · 02-20-2005, 09:12 AM

Take a look at quanta as well, in my opinion it's one of the best html editors out there.

vharishankar · 02-20-2005, 09:57 AM

Quanta plus is great. It has autocomplete, syntax highlighting and a good interface to allow you to write a complete HTML file and even PHP within minutes.

It is a killer app, though not WYSIWYG. I don't like HTML WYSIWYG editors at all.

reddazz · 02-20-2005, 10:09 AM

There is a WYSIWYG mode in quanta, but I have never used it.

microsoft/linux · 02-20-2005, 06:28 PM

I'd really rather not learn HTML at this point. I'm trying to use linux solely, and I have FrontPage on Windows. I maintain a website for out church, and I'm trying to start a small web design business. I just need a simple way to build websites.

vharishankar · 02-20-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reddazz
There is a WYSIWYG mode in quanta, but I have never used it.

It is quite buggy, unwieldly and unstable in the VPL mode. I prefer to edit the source.

jeebas_13 · 02-28-2005, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by microsoft/linux
and I'm trying to start a small web design business. I just need a simple way to build websites.

no offence, but i'd probably learn html and css. if your trying to web design commercially, probably learn php...because anyone can do it with the mouse

bulliver · 03-01-2005, 01:26 AM

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I'm trying to start a small web design business.

No offense (as well), but you have no business even considering this if you cannot be bothered to learn html/css. It would be more honest just to sell your potential clients a copy of frontpage/dreamweaver and let them make the site themselves considering you will only be selling them crappy, bloated code anyway.

The church website is a different story, but I don't think it's cool at all to charge money for a site 'designed' by software.

reddazz · 03-01-2005, 02:18 AM

I gotta agree that to be a good webdesigner or developer, you need basic html/xhtml knowledge, css and something like javascript and php. These things don't take a lot of time to learn and they give you more control on certain aspects of designing a site that may not work properly using WYSIWYG.