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And why don't they just buy one of the oh-so-great preinstalled Linux laptops then? Right: because there is nothing that Linux would do better for them. It is a usability hell. Quote:
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We're actually talking on a similar level. macOS is one of the few operating systems with a worse security and a much worse desktop "experience" than Linux. Unless you own an iPhone, of course.
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In my opinion, you cannot have a good system with many users unless you don't listen to their wishes. Try to cater both your computer-illiterate grandmother and your IT nerd uncle with the same system. Good luck. (And Linux has really shifted towards computer-illiterate grandmothers today.) Quote:
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I was over a mates place last week, he took the cover off of his desktop, and even after I warned him, he still plugs one of the powerlines from the power supply into what looked like front panel USB. Why? Because if the line is there, it should be plugged into something. :rolleyes: Needless to say, that machine doesn't even POST anymore, let alone do anything else after that. But he thinks he knows, when in actual fact (and I don't mean to insult him by saying this) he doesn't have a clue of what he's on about when it comes to computers or IT in general - but he thinks he knows a few things. That same powerline didn't even look like it was plugged in either - it was half plugged in. You know what's worse don't you? He doesn't just have one desktop, he's got at least two, if not three desktops. I do agree that there is a historical shift upon us in relation to the type of users we see using things like Linux. Another point is that, many people these days are so used to technology (and using it) that, as long as it works for them, they don't care how it works, the OS involved, etc. Quote:
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Once we had electronic keyboards, that wasn't a problem any more and it was easy to design a better keymap (the Dvorak keyboard). But who uses Dvorak? Hardly anybody. If you use YesItsMe's logic, that would have to mean that Dvorak is a bad keymap. Of course the real reason that nobody uses Dvorak is because nobody knows where the keys are on a Dvorak keyboard. Even people who aren't much use as typists (I type with one finger) know where the keys are on a qwerty keyboard. Because everyone uses qwerty, everyone wants to go on using qwerty. Because everyone uses Windows, everyone wants to go on using Windows. Every PC you buy has Windows on it so everyone who ever learned to use a PC learned Windows. The dead weight of legacy will keep Windows going long after we are dust. |
I don't think the influx of "low skilled users" was necessarily the "Linux community's" mistake as such. This was a movement/mindset began in the earlier part of the last decade by certain distributions and individuals. Canonical Ltd, for example, famously set out to increase "market share" at the expense of MS Windows. This began the days of "misleading marketing" (which should have no place in a FOSS project), getting woefully inept users onboard and deceiving them that rebranded brown Debian unstable could do everything Windows can.
Fast forward to the present date and you still have the same OS for the masses who don't care as the primary OS on x86 desktop/laptop systems and a Linux kernel based OS dominating smartphones/tablets. The day of the Linux desktop, as envisaged, was never even on the horizon. This is because there was never any need to try to reinvent MS Windows or lure Windows users under false pretences. In the FOSS world today, corporations are still firmly in the driving seat, moreso than ever before. GPL has been circumvented, developers employed or paid off or if all else fails patent trolling still works. Those projects without corporate backing falter, the balance has been upset irreparably. Whereas users in the late 90's used an x86 PC with dial up modem and MSIE and were at the mercy of Microsoft - the billions of present day smartphone users are the thralls of google inc, living in a 1984 like scenario which even Orwell couldn't have dreamt up. Anyway... Fuschia is probably also very much about disentanglement from GPL. It seems to be all 3 clause BSD, MIT and Apache 2 licensed from what I've read about it thus far. Android, as it stands and as already discussed in this thread, has "layers" of licencing, where permissive licensed code is used as a shield between GPL (Linux kernel) and proprietary code (app developers, etc). Fuschia is clearly an effort to resolve this. As I understand it, it's a microkernel based OS? So yes, the Android era is probably entering the twilight years, but it's just not very surprising. Like any embedded Linux device, Android was just a means to an end - in that it broke google into the smartphone market, unseating Apple and blowing MS out of the water using an OS primarily built out of FOSS software from multiple sources. Now that google are securely rooted into the the market, they can, well... just write their own OS and do as they please. None of the billions of unknowing "Linux users" running Android will care either way. |
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@hazel, "legacy", perfect word, nailed it. Well said. Agree totally. |
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From all appearances this is definitely all about going their own way, doing their own thing and of course GPL avoidance. And that means removing the layers which are there due to GPL avoidance and which add complexity and bring their own problems. And for those that missed it, the latter is nothing new: https://image.slidesharecdn.com/andr...ion-33-638.jpg https://web.archive.org/web/20160408...an-Android.pdf (Archived original.) Relevant quotes: Quote:
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So in my view, google would probably carry on using Linux and adapt it to their needs if it weren't for the licence. Linux has been a means to an end. They could have used a modified NetBSD or FreeBSD kernel from day one and avoided all of this in the first place, they must have had compelling technical reasons for not doing so (perhaps lacking architecture/hardware support at the time? I'm not sure...). But it's also worth considering that google bought Android once it was already in development. With the GPL out of the way, the bits which need to be proprietary can now be proprietary, while still taking advantage of the free/cheap labour of FOSS developers where needed. |
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It seems that Linux is only defended by an 11-year-old. :D
Now we're at the topic again. |
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I have to admit I have no idea what, beyond a childish link, the domain linked to points but unless I see evidence to the contrary it is clickbait. |
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